It’s your choice to decide to keep your Russian citizenship. Then you have to pay the price of being a Russian citizen.
It's not as black and white as "just renounce or pay the price". Renouncing your Russian citizenship is not an easy process, and they might even deny your request... It's not like cancelling a Netflix subscription.
And merely being Russian doesn't make someone a bad person or a supporter of Putin's regime.
Do you want to keep it or renounce it? Sounds mostly that you either wanna remain Russian or you are the most lazy person on earth.
Have you ever paid taxes in Russia or any way contributed to Russian society? If so you are directly financing the genocide committed by Russia. Are you at least admitting Russia is engaged in a genocide and that Russia must be defeated and treated just like the third riche?
I'm not Russian. I'm Swedish, born and raised in Dalarna.
I'm not pro the Russian regime, there's really no need for the aggressive tone and insults. All I said is that it really isn't black and white when it comes to renouncing it, and even the Reddit post you linked shows that it isn't an easy process, the comments too describe difficulty in doing it and asking for help, some examples:
Some governments have even stopped enforcing renunciation requirements because people have found it difficult to renounce. One such example is the Netherlands[0]: "There are currently indications within the implementation that naturalized Russians are experiencing problems regarding this renunciation [...] for the time being, it is not enforced for Russians naturalized as Dutch citizens whether Russian nationality is actually being (or has been) renounced."
As I understand, Russia doesn't do citizenship-based taxation like the US does, so I don't have as big of a problem with someone retaining their Russian citizenship when they're living abroad if they find the process difficult/impossible/unrealistic. If they did citizenship-based taxation, then I would have more of a problem with it, as, at that point, it is funding the regime.
I understand why many governments have measures against Russian and Belarusian citizens, but I also sympathize with the people affected.
Are you at least admitting Russia is engaged in a genocide and that Russia must be defeated and treated just like the third riche?
I'm undecided if I'd call it genocide by definition, but there are definitely things that lean towards it, such as abducting children and trying to "russify" them. I definitely believe they should have never started the war - I don't support it at all - and that they have committed tons of war crimes and awful things such as torture, rape, attacking civilians (also in terms of infrastructure), political assassinations, and lots more. It should end with Ukraine having complete control of its own country and being left to live in peace.
But it doesn't mean I automatically believe all Russians are bad people who support the regime, especially if they live abroad and are trying to build a life.
I welcome both Ukrainians and regime-opposing Russians to come and start a life here.
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Oh I wonder why they don’t wanna do business with Russians. Could it be because Russians are threatening to invade, bomb and occupy Estonia?
It’s your choice to decide to keep your Russian citizenship. Then you have to pay the price of being a Russian citizen.
It's not as black and white as "just renounce or pay the price". Renouncing your Russian citizenship is not an easy process, and they might even deny your request... It's not like cancelling a Netflix subscription.
And merely being Russian doesn't make someone a bad person or a supporter of Putin's regime.
Seems pretty straightforward to renounce your citizenship. https://www.reddit.com/r/tjournal_refugees/s/jnQRpzMXCS
Do you want to keep it or renounce it? Sounds mostly that you either wanna remain Russian or you are the most lazy person on earth.
Have you ever paid taxes in Russia or any way contributed to Russian society? If so you are directly financing the genocide committed by Russia. Are you at least admitting Russia is engaged in a genocide and that Russia must be defeated and treated just like the third riche?
I'm not Russian. I'm Swedish, born and raised in Dalarna.
I'm not pro the Russian regime, there's really no need for the aggressive tone and insults. All I said is that it really isn't black and white when it comes to renouncing it, and even the Reddit post you linked shows that it isn't an easy process, the comments too describe difficulty in doing it and asking for help, some examples:
- https://www.reddit.com/r/tjournal_refugees/comments/1lrdngq/...
- https://www.reddit.com/r/tjournal_refugees/comments/1lrdngq/...
- https://www.reddit.com/r/tjournal_refugees/comments/1lrdngq/...
- https://www.reddit.com/r/tjournal_refugees/comments/1lrdngq/...
- https://www.reddit.com/r/tjournal_refugees/comments/1lrdngq/...
- https://www.reddit.com/r/tjournal_refugees/comments/1lrdngq/...
Some governments have even stopped enforcing renunciation requirements because people have found it difficult to renounce. One such example is the Netherlands[0]: "There are currently indications within the implementation that naturalized Russians are experiencing problems regarding this renunciation [...] for the time being, it is not enforced for Russians naturalized as Dutch citizens whether Russian nationality is actually being (or has been) renounced."
As I understand, Russia doesn't do citizenship-based taxation like the US does, so I don't have as big of a problem with someone retaining their Russian citizenship when they're living abroad if they find the process difficult/impossible/unrealistic. If they did citizenship-based taxation, then I would have more of a problem with it, as, at that point, it is funding the regime.
I understand why many governments have measures against Russian and Belarusian citizens, but I also sympathize with the people affected.
I'm undecided if I'd call it genocide by definition, but there are definitely things that lean towards it, such as abducting children and trying to "russify" them. I definitely believe they should have never started the war - I don't support it at all - and that they have committed tons of war crimes and awful things such as torture, rape, attacking civilians (also in terms of infrastructure), political assassinations, and lots more. It should end with Ukraine having complete control of its own country and being left to live in peace.
But it doesn't mean I automatically believe all Russians are bad people who support the regime, especially if they live abroad and are trying to build a life.
I welcome both Ukrainians and regime-opposing Russians to come and start a life here.
[0]: https://puc.overheid.nl/ind/doc/PUC_1312395_1/1/