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Agreed. Schools don't really know how to teach programming. The focus should be on doing projects, not sitting in lectures. People should just get together in groups and work on coding, with someone to ask questions to if they're stuck. I doubt schools will change, but there are alternatives, like coding bootcamps.

Your institution is doing something wrong if you're being taught ``programming'' while majoring in CS.

"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes."

I wish they'd call it Computational Science, since that's what it is. Computers are only involved for convenience, just like with geometry and lithography.

I do think that both approaches are legitimate, but conflating engineering with mathematics just causes unnecessary confusion, and feeds pointless Internet flamewars over semantics.

I would suspect that most people majoring in Computer science are interested in developing software and only take courses on subjects like Calculus and Computer theory because they need to.

Eh...excuse me?

See jfb's quote.

Also, I went to Rutgers as well.

If you aren't learning programming, you might as well study art history.

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