can even be angry at myself, in which case revenge doesn't even make sense
I have seen lots of people, myself included, where self revenge would make the most plausible explanation for behavior. I no longer see people as homogeneous or discrete.
Anger serves a useful tool, but it can also be an extremely powerful way to manipulate and be manipulated.
Fascinating, can you describe some of these cases? I suppose self-harm could fit this description, but let's say I'm angry at myself for making a bad decision that hurt someone else, what would revenge on myself look like? It would be hard to make things up to the victim by sabotaging myself.
Bad self talk where one tears oneself down is a common one.
There is also regressive punishment, in the case where someone else has been wronged, not writing the wrong and letting it linger is also a form of self harm.
I now have the philosophy that if I were to see someone else treating someone the way one treats themselves, and they take note of it, then the internal behavior is not appropriate.
Denying oneself something nice/good (but unrelated). Or doing something that provokes a punishing response from someone/something else. Like picking a fight, or "failing" to pay bills, gambling.
Neither will help a victim of course, but self-sabotage never help (almost by definition).
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I have seen lots of people, myself included, where self revenge would make the most plausible explanation for behavior. I no longer see people as homogeneous or discrete.
Anger serves a useful tool, but it can also be an extremely powerful way to manipulate and be manipulated.
Fascinating, can you describe some of these cases? I suppose self-harm could fit this description, but let's say I'm angry at myself for making a bad decision that hurt someone else, what would revenge on myself look like? It would be hard to make things up to the victim by sabotaging myself.
Bad self talk where one tears oneself down is a common one.
There is also regressive punishment, in the case where someone else has been wronged, not writing the wrong and letting it linger is also a form of self harm.
I now have the philosophy that if I were to see someone else treating someone the way one treats themselves, and they take note of it, then the internal behavior is not appropriate.
Denying oneself something nice/good (but unrelated). Or doing something that provokes a punishing response from someone/something else. Like picking a fight, or "failing" to pay bills, gambling.
Neither will help a victim of course, but self-sabotage never help (almost by definition).