Dell shouldn't have hired the guy because it was 100% obvious they were going to have to appologize for it later and women are part of their target market (some of whom are sensitive to femist jokes).
That being said, the author of "therealkatie, lighten up" post is ridiculous as well.
I don't make femist jokes at work because doing so signify a complete lack of social skills on my part (same as the guy at Dell who selected the comedian). That being said, her (realkatie's) inability to handle those jokes also represents a complete lack of social skills.
I would guess that the guys making those jokes are probably interested in her rather than "discriminating" against her.
"That being said, her (realkatie's) inability to handle those jokes also represents a complete lack of social skills."
It never ceases to amaze me that someone can make a flip judgment about a person (even throw them under the bus!) after spending 2 minutes reading one single blog post that that person wrote.
You don't know her. It's pretty freakin' presumptuous to say she has a "complete lack of social skills", and reflects poorly on you.
I'm judging her by her writing. If I had the opportunity to meet her I may think differently. You are right, "complete lack of social skills" is probably way too extreme, but she definitely lacks some social skills if she is letting comments like she described get under her skin. People making those comments are not coming from a position of power (even if they are managers). They are the weak people in the chain and people with strong social skills deal with those people and move on. It is part of life.
Frankly, these "jokes" (in scare quotes, because they aren't funny) are simply a form of bullying or mobbing [1].
Not enjoying bullying, especially if it goes on for months or years, does not say anything about your social skills, either good or bad. It does say a lot about your workplace if such bullies are a permanent fixture, and if the problem persists, then cutting your losses and moving on is probably the sensible thing to do.
Yes, ideally, you should stand your ground and fight, but if this kind of garbage is tolerated by management, you're fighting a losing battle.
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Yeah, shouldn't everyone just lighten up? http://therealkatie.net/blog/2012/mar/21/lighten-up/
Dell shouldn't have hired the guy because it was 100% obvious they were going to have to appologize for it later and women are part of their target market (some of whom are sensitive to femist jokes).
That being said, the author of "therealkatie, lighten up" post is ridiculous as well.
I don't make femist jokes at work because doing so signify a complete lack of social skills on my part (same as the guy at Dell who selected the comedian). That being said, her (realkatie's) inability to handle those jokes also represents a complete lack of social skills.
I would guess that the guys making those jokes are probably interested in her rather than "discriminating" against her.
"That being said, her (realkatie's) inability to handle those jokes also represents a complete lack of social skills."
It never ceases to amaze me that someone can make a flip judgment about a person (even throw them under the bus!) after spending 2 minutes reading one single blog post that that person wrote.
You don't know her. It's pretty freakin' presumptuous to say she has a "complete lack of social skills", and reflects poorly on you.
I'm judging her by her writing. If I had the opportunity to meet her I may think differently. You are right, "complete lack of social skills" is probably way too extreme, but she definitely lacks some social skills if she is letting comments like she described get under her skin. People making those comments are not coming from a position of power (even if they are managers). They are the weak people in the chain and people with strong social skills deal with those people and move on. It is part of life.
"People making those comments are not coming from a position of power (even if they are managers)"
I haven't laughed this hard in a few days. Thanks for that.
Glad I could help you lighten up.
Frankly, these "jokes" (in scare quotes, because they aren't funny) are simply a form of bullying or mobbing [1].
Not enjoying bullying, especially if it goes on for months or years, does not say anything about your social skills, either good or bad. It does say a lot about your workplace if such bullies are a permanent fixture, and if the problem persists, then cutting your losses and moving on is probably the sensible thing to do.
Yes, ideally, you should stand your ground and fight, but if this kind of garbage is tolerated by management, you're fighting a losing battle.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobbing
> People making those comments are not coming from a position of power (even if they are managers).
John Scalzi: "In the role playing game known as The Real World, 'Straight White Male' is the lowest difficulty setting there is." (http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-male-th...)
The one-before-last comment on that post's thread sums it up for me
Yes -- lighten up (non ironically).