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I am so tired of this guy. He's a Class-A a*hole.

He is fighting everyone's 30% fees.

Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform.

Proof of his absolute stupidity is here [0], where he says (referring to MS, Nintendo, and Sony), "* Well, they subsidize hardware, so they sell their hardware, as far as I can tell from widely published reports, at a loss, and so the fee needs to cover that*".

WTF???? So if you lose money, the he isn't going to sue you, but if you make money, then he will sue you. At this point, I hope someone destroys his damn company due to a slip & fall lawsuit. God, I can't take his shit anymore!!!

[0] - https://www.gamesindustry.biz/epic-explains-why-it-hasnt-sue...

/rant

Well, they subsidize hardware, so they sell their hardware, as far as I can tell from widely published reports, at a loss, and so the fee needs to cover that

That seems totally reasonable to me.

Epic doesn't build any hardware, and charges Devs 12% to build an add-on for Fortnite. [0]

Why 12% ? That's not cheap for what is essentially basic ACH billing service.

If I go to get a service like that, I have several vendors to choose from and only pay about 1/4 that price. [1]

Maybe someone should sue Epic for unreasonable pricing.

[0] - https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/9/23630864/epic-games-store-...

[1] - https://quickbooks.intuit.com/payments/payment-rates/

An ACH billing service.... That is built on top a game platform. 12% doesn't seem bad, compared to Roblox. Pretty sure last I saw, developers were only getting 30% of the sales from Roblox add-ons.

Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform.

It is maybe easy to create a platform, but much harder to beat network effect.

He is fighting everyone's 30% fees. > > Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform.

Perhaps. And perhaps its monopolistic behaviour. If so, we all stand to win by challenging it.

WTF???? So if you lose money, the he isn't going to sue you, but if you make money, then he will sue you.

Sounds like Sweeney is suggesting the hardware itself is sold at a loss, not that console manufacturers make no money.

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