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Comment on Ask HN: Could layoffs be companies firing deadweight?

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You’re right. It’s all part of the natural business cycle, it seems.

As the power shifts to the employees, it becomes possible for employees to reduce output with impunity. Employers don’t have much choice, since you can barely fill the positions you have. It’s more expensive to replace a low performer than to just keep them.

But if some employers are forced to do layoffs, citing the economy, other employers definitely can seize this opportunity to embrace the power pendulum swinging back.

As some anecdata for seasoning, some of the higher ups at Salesforce told me they were pretty ticked off about how the employees seemed to have declined in engagement and productivity. So I bet this is a joyous occasion to let the bottom rung go and move the power pendulum back to the employer. You drop the bottom and expect more from those left. Double win.

"some of the higher ups at Salesforce told me they were pretty ticked off about how the employees seemed to have declined in engagement and productivity. "

I wonder, could it be that people are at their emotional wits end over what has happened to their lives since 2019?

I won’t say where I’m at but there are engineers here that haven’t committed a single line of code in three months. I’m not sure what they do all day as they’re not in meeting either aside from stand-ups.

That can be incredibly demoralizing for the employees who actually contribute. In these cases it is actually good for morale to have layoffs.

Don't they talk about what they do in the stand-ups?

Nope, cameras off, never say a word.

Don’t their managers ask them in the stand-up-s? How do their managers handle it?

Their (manager) personality is passive. We have enough people to cover, so why rock the boat?

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