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Not "the same thing" but security is a HUGELY IMPORTANT under the umbrella of "reliability".

If your stuff isn't secure how could you possibly make claims that it's reliable? If I said, "resilient" (synonym for "reliable") instead would it make more sense (in the scope of IT stuff)?

But is security even "under the umbrella of 'reliability'"?

Depends (like pretty much everything else) on your definitions, I guess.

I could see defining "security" and "reliability" along orthogonal axes:

"Sure, it's a bit leaky, but it's very, very reliable -- including reliably leaky."

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