I suffer from schizoaffective disorder and I don't behave and act as Terry does. It ruined my career when I developed it. I could still do the work, but once you are mentally ill people start treating you like crap. A lot of my symptoms are like Asperger's Syndrome but I have enough social skills to get married so I couldn't be that, so they used Schizoaffective Disorder instead.
If I was diagnosed with autism it would be different, Microsoft and others have plans to hire autistic people. But schizophrenia and autism get treated with the same medication.
I learned meditation from Buddhism to screen out negative thoughts. You can correct a schizophrenic. John Forbes Nash Jr. was a schizophrenic and he got better over the years until he died recently in a taxi crash.
I can't explain Terry's racism, or his behavior. He does have programming skills and a high IQ and can produce results.
Hey! I'm sorry to hear that people treated you poorly. That's really shitty and in an ideal world people would treat you as an individual, and not as a representative of a disease.
John Forbes Nash Jr
That's not really fair - John Nash was an exceptional person in a myriad of different ways. He's very much an exceptional case in the same way that Stephen Hawking is very much an exception when it comes to ALS.
In general, it's a pretty poor idea to confront someone suffering from disorganized thinking caused by schizophrenia about that disorganized thinking (maybe not in a clinical context, I wouldn't know). Just because John Nash was able to function to a high degree without medication doesn't mean that everyone will be able to, or that it's fair to hold everyone to that standard.
In my case I had panic attacks due to stress of being picked on, was told to 'snap out of it' and couldn't.
Most thought I was autistic and not schizophrenic, but schizoaffective disorder is rare and like a combo of bipolar and schizophrenia. It is not as bad as schizophrenia, and you have some schizophrenics who are in a mental hospital for life because they can't cope with it.
I used to earn a good salary as a programmer, but management didn't want someone sick with a mental illness working for them. I had worked so hard and stressed myself out that I developed the mental illness and ended up on short-term disability. When I returned two weeks later I was fired for having a panic attack and not snapping out of it. After that my career was over and it was hard finding work that wouldn't give me a hard time for being mentally ill.
How about, instead, "You can correct some schizophrenics"?
For me, that would put them on about the same level as Tea Partiers or AGW deniers -- I'd treat them as individuals and make a judgement call based on whether I might be able to have a reasonable conversation with that particular individual.
Yeah some but they have to want to get better and take a treatment plan and work to get better.
Tea Partiers and AGW Deniers chose to be that way, a schizophrenic didn't chose to be that way they developed a mental illness and it might even be genetic or due to environmental factors.
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I suffer from schizoaffective disorder and I don't behave and act as Terry does. It ruined my career when I developed it. I could still do the work, but once you are mentally ill people start treating you like crap. A lot of my symptoms are like Asperger's Syndrome but I have enough social skills to get married so I couldn't be that, so they used Schizoaffective Disorder instead.
If I was diagnosed with autism it would be different, Microsoft and others have plans to hire autistic people. But schizophrenia and autism get treated with the same medication.
I learned meditation from Buddhism to screen out negative thoughts. You can correct a schizophrenic. John Forbes Nash Jr. was a schizophrenic and he got better over the years until he died recently in a taxi crash.
I can't explain Terry's racism, or his behavior. He does have programming skills and a high IQ and can produce results.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/27/opinion/sunday/schizophren...
Sometimes when you have a high IQ, you develop a mental illness as a side-effect.
People thought Steve Jobs was Schizophrenic: http://www.thoughtsontransitions.com/2011/11/reading-steve-j...
Hey! I'm sorry to hear that people treated you poorly. That's really shitty and in an ideal world people would treat you as an individual, and not as a representative of a disease.
That's not really fair - John Nash was an exceptional person in a myriad of different ways. He's very much an exceptional case in the same way that Stephen Hawking is very much an exception when it comes to ALS.
In general, it's a pretty poor idea to confront someone suffering from disorganized thinking caused by schizophrenia about that disorganized thinking (maybe not in a clinical context, I wouldn't know). Just because John Nash was able to function to a high degree without medication doesn't mean that everyone will be able to, or that it's fair to hold everyone to that standard.
In my case I had panic attacks due to stress of being picked on, was told to 'snap out of it' and couldn't.
Most thought I was autistic and not schizophrenic, but schizoaffective disorder is rare and like a combo of bipolar and schizophrenia. It is not as bad as schizophrenia, and you have some schizophrenics who are in a mental hospital for life because they can't cope with it.
I used to earn a good salary as a programmer, but management didn't want someone sick with a mental illness working for them. I had worked so hard and stressed myself out that I developed the mental illness and ended up on short-term disability. When I returned two weeks later I was fired for having a panic attack and not snapping out of it. After that my career was over and it was hard finding work that wouldn't give me a hard time for being mentally ill.
How about, instead, "You can correct some schizophrenics"?
For me, that would put them on about the same level as Tea Partiers or AGW deniers -- I'd treat them as individuals and make a judgement call based on whether I might be able to have a reasonable conversation with that particular individual.
Yeah some but they have to want to get better and take a treatment plan and work to get better.
Tea Partiers and AGW Deniers chose to be that way, a schizophrenic didn't chose to be that way they developed a mental illness and it might even be genetic or due to environmental factors.