These two are not the kind of guys you'll find on crowdSPRING, but they're not the most expensive either. I can't provide you with any absolute "project total" numbers, but the first one I mentioned (Ole Martin Kristiansen, piraja.no) usually goes for about €75/hour on larger projects. In my experience, he's always worked quickly and to the point.
The second one is probably in that range as well, although I can't make any guarantees (and he's not currently on GTalk).
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how much do these guys usually charge? with design you can end up paying $100-$100K for the same thing, and it's hard to know how much each charges
Definitely, I understand what you mean.
These two are not the kind of guys you'll find on crowdSPRING, but they're not the most expensive either. I can't provide you with any absolute "project total" numbers, but the first one I mentioned (Ole Martin Kristiansen, piraja.no) usually goes for about €75/hour on larger projects. In my experience, he's always worked quickly and to the point.
The second one is probably in that range as well, although I can't make any guarantees (and he's not currently on GTalk).