They are actually announcing a new product lineup (1) and not a new release for actual download. The article predicts that the actual release (RTM) will be in the summer. The current (beta) release is still CTP 6 which was already announced a few weeks ago.
I suppose this is a press release intended more for the corporate IT manager planning his purchasing budget (what SKU do I buy/upgrade) rather than developers to actually install and play with today.
(1) e.g. Premium and Ultimate editions will be merged into one Enterprise edition
I am the Visual Studio Product manager that created this page and am sorry folks that it caused some confusion. I know Ecio had the right intentions but I can see how it was confusing here as to the scope of our announcement.
The goal for us was to make sure that folks that do pay for MSDN Subscriptions know what we are doing for Visual Studio 2015 wave.
If anyone actually wants to try the latest test version of Visual Studio 2015 you can do so here:
It's confusing because when Microsoft has put prior splashy pages announcing VS2010, VS2012, and VS2013, the actual RTM downloadable iso images were available the same day.
Therefore, it's not unreasonable to read their verbage of the first sentence [with interpretation in brackets] as:
>Introducing the newly announced Visual Studio 2015 product line [so go and download the new RTM iso image that's in the link below], including the all-new Visual Studio Enterprise with MSDN, Visual Studio Professional with MSDN, and the free Visual Studio Community edition.
... instead of reading it like Microsoft intends:
>Introducing the newly announced Visual Studio 2015 product line [and you've already got the latest beta version last week so don't go looking for the RTM until summer], including the all-new Visual Studio Enterprise with MSDN, Visual Studio Professional with MSDN, and the free Visual Studio Community edition.
A bit of Pavlov's conditioning based on the last 3 VS releases makes the bold headlines a little confusing. The fact that it's on HN's front page makes it seem like a more newsworthy announcement than it actually is. The expected summer RTM would be more typical of rising to the HN front page(1). This announcement of reshuffling SKU editions doesn't seem to warrant the hype of being voted to the front page -- unless -- people misunderstand what Microsoft is actually announcing. :-)
(1) it was #2 on the front page before I wrote this post. In the 5 minutes it took to write this post and save it, it's now #236. I suppose an moderator pushed it down into oblivion as a service to HN readers.
I posted it and I received it because I have a MSDN subscription so I agree, it's more for telling use that is coming, the merge change that you noted etc..
thanks for posting this, though its unfortunate that folks got confused and I am sorry if the way the page was setup did anything to contribute to the problem.
We appreciate your support of our announcement though :).
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This is a confusing announcement from Microsoft.
They are actually announcing a new product lineup (1) and not a new release for actual download. The article predicts that the actual release (RTM) will be in the summer. The current (beta) release is still CTP 6 which was already announced a few weeks ago.
I suppose this is a press release intended more for the corporate IT manager planning his purchasing budget (what SKU do I buy/upgrade) rather than developers to actually install and play with today.
(1) e.g. Premium and Ultimate editions will be merged into one Enterprise edition
I am the Visual Studio Product manager that created this page and am sorry folks that it caused some confusion. I know Ecio had the right intentions but I can see how it was confusing here as to the scope of our announcement.
The goal for us was to make sure that folks that do pay for MSDN Subscriptions know what we are doing for Visual Studio 2015 wave.
If anyone actually wants to try the latest test version of Visual Studio 2015 you can do so here:
https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/downloads/visual-studio-2...
Also we have detailed release notes on what's new in Visual Studio here: - https://www.visualstudio.com/news/vs2015-preview-vs - https://www.visualstudio.com/news/vs2015-vs
I'm not sure how this is confusing. It very clearly says that it is announcing a new product line in the first sentence of the announcement.
It's confusing because when Microsoft has put prior splashy pages announcing VS2010, VS2012, and VS2013, the actual RTM downloadable iso images were available the same day.
Therefore, it's not unreasonable to read their verbage of the first sentence [with interpretation in brackets] as:
>Introducing the newly announced Visual Studio 2015 product line [so go and download the new RTM iso image that's in the link below], including the all-new Visual Studio Enterprise with MSDN, Visual Studio Professional with MSDN, and the free Visual Studio Community edition.
... instead of reading it like Microsoft intends:
>Introducing the newly announced Visual Studio 2015 product line [and you've already got the latest beta version last week so don't go looking for the RTM until summer], including the all-new Visual Studio Enterprise with MSDN, Visual Studio Professional with MSDN, and the free Visual Studio Community edition.
A bit of Pavlov's conditioning based on the last 3 VS releases makes the bold headlines a little confusing. The fact that it's on HN's front page makes it seem like a more newsworthy announcement than it actually is. The expected summer RTM would be more typical of rising to the HN front page(1). This announcement of reshuffling SKU editions doesn't seem to warrant the hype of being voted to the front page -- unless -- people misunderstand what Microsoft is actually announcing. :-)
(1) it was #2 on the front page before I wrote this post. In the 5 minutes it took to write this post and save it, it's now #236. I suppose an moderator pushed it down into oblivion as a service to HN readers.
I posted it and I received it because I have a MSDN subscription so I agree, it's more for telling use that is coming, the merge change that you noted etc..
thanks for posting this, though its unfortunate that folks got confused and I am sorry if the way the page was setup did anything to contribute to the problem.
We appreciate your support of our announcement though :).
Ok, so I can expect to be upgraded from Professional to Enterprise as appreciation :D