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+1 - most of grails is also written in java, drives me crazy when trying to debug some of the day to day weirdness you get with grails..

It's good to get a view of whats going on within the community here, I've only ever seen it from the outside looking in.

That said I love groovy as a language. A friend and I wrote a fairly complicated currency breakdown algorithm (lots of corner cases and BigDecimals) once in groovy in about 3 hours, was about 40 lines of code. The production codebase was java so after porting it was something like 300+ lines of unintelligble masses of .divide() .multiply() .compareTo() and so on.

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