She did, however, dismiss them as being hardly important to what she does. This is the ever growing phenomenon of "I can too" that is growing in our culture. I love the fact that more people are becoming interested in programming! I am not so happy about the fact that people seem to shirk the fundamental need to learn that underpins programming (or computer science... however you want to label it). If a person has no interest in learning recursion and pointers, I am not so sure that they are doing their company or the people who have to work with their code a favor. Then again, there are a lot of know-it-all programmers out there whose personalities are so grating that talking to them is an absolute slog.