While I agree, how do you enforce that? How do you make sure that actually happens? How do you protect the groups which we agree have certain degree of disadvantage most of the time from the outside? And even with that enforced, being in an environment where most of the people might hate you based on your gender/sex/skin color won't change your experience based on a paper/set of rules.
Giving them money might fix that? What you do however is punish any racist action that happens. You kick people out of the school when it happens, no second chance. You give people opportunity to talk about it, you talk about it with people. What about a class that everyone need to do which talk about racism.
Now they are saying that it's okay to care about your gender and race, you will get monetary support if there's a possibility of racism... if you are not white...
A group that as we have discussed and you seem to agree with me have more advantages
No I disagree on that part. I know multiple people that are white that have trouble with money and I know plenty of people from other gender/race that doesn't. Generalization is wrong. There's plenty of white people that couldn't afford to go and there's plenty of non-white people that could afford to go.
could go to any other similar space near them
You make me think about it. A good way to use that money would be to help hacker school to stop racism. A safe network of hacker school that fight against racism.
Because again they don't have to fear racism or sexism that can not be controlled.
I still doesn't see how giving them money fix that. I completely agree that's the issue that need to be solved.
This is getting too long and we're going around in circles about the issue.
So the only thing I'm going to reply is:
Giving them money might fix that?
No, they're not trying to battle this issue you want to tackle. Simply because is bigger than them.
I still doesn't see how giving them money fix that.
Again, this is not to fix this huge issue. This is to give other people the chance to assist this and assure them they can feel safe.
There's plenty of white people that couldn't afford to go and there's plenty of non-white people that could afford to go.
And again, they're not giving you the money simply because you're non white. They might give you the grant if you mark any of the checkbox that make you eligible but you still need to check "I'd need financial assistance to do Hacker School" which is not automatically checked as you seem to believe simply because you check that you're non white.
Again, what you propose is that non white people who want to attend to a place like hacker school:
a) wait until racism is non existent
b) deal with ugly situations/experiences because there will be rules to make sure to deal with the cause after
Instead of doing what they want/love and creating safe spaces where they don't have to deal with stuff they shouldn't deal with in the first place.
If you want to keep discussing you can shoot me an email (pcepedam92@gmail.com). I could probably even direct you to people who could answer as to why your proposal of simply solving racism is not as easy, with plenty of real life examples and historical facts.
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Giving them money might fix that? What you do however is punish any racist action that happens. You kick people out of the school when it happens, no second chance. You give people opportunity to talk about it, you talk about it with people. What about a class that everyone need to do which talk about racism.
Now they are saying that it's okay to care about your gender and race, you will get monetary support if there's a possibility of racism... if you are not white...
No I disagree on that part. I know multiple people that are white that have trouble with money and I know plenty of people from other gender/race that doesn't. Generalization is wrong. There's plenty of white people that couldn't afford to go and there's plenty of non-white people that could afford to go.
You make me think about it. A good way to use that money would be to help hacker school to stop racism. A safe network of hacker school that fight against racism.
I still doesn't see how giving them money fix that. I completely agree that's the issue that need to be solved.
This is getting too long and we're going around in circles about the issue.
So the only thing I'm going to reply is:
No, they're not trying to battle this issue you want to tackle. Simply because is bigger than them.
Again, this is not to fix this huge issue. This is to give other people the chance to assist this and assure them they can feel safe.
And again, they're not giving you the money simply because you're non white. They might give you the grant if you mark any of the checkbox that make you eligible but you still need to check "I'd need financial assistance to do Hacker School" which is not automatically checked as you seem to believe simply because you check that you're non white.
Again, what you propose is that non white people who want to attend to a place like hacker school:
a) wait until racism is non existent
b) deal with ugly situations/experiences because there will be rules to make sure to deal with the cause after
Instead of doing what they want/love and creating safe spaces where they don't have to deal with stuff they shouldn't deal with in the first place.
If you want to keep discussing you can shoot me an email (pcepedam92@gmail.com). I could probably even direct you to people who could answer as to why your proposal of simply solving racism is not as easy, with plenty of real life examples and historical facts.