One thing to remember is that a country where one person makes $120,000 and nine others make $20,000 has the same per-capita GDP as a country where ten people make $30,000 each. Also, as m_eiman points out, PPP does not account for social costs such as increased greenhouse emissions or declining infrastructure.
It's not obvious to me that the infrastructure in Mississipi would be declining faster than the infrastructure in, say, Italy. At the very least, Mississipi is bound to have a much better road system.
Italy's roads aren't that bad, actually (at least in the north). The problem is that they are covered with Italian drivers, and there are an awful lot of them: 60 million in an area a bit smaller than California. (Well, 60 million inhabitants - not all of them drive, but more drive than they ought to)
I wasn't trying to imply that Italy's roads were bad, just pointing out that US roads are unusually excellent. I picked Italy instead of Germany to avoid a pointless message board argument comparing Germany's often-excellent roads to Mississipi's.
People (and by that I mean Americans, sorry) seem to think Germany's roads are an exception. While this may have been true 20 or 30 years ago, in reality they're pretty much the same as or even a little worse than the rest of Europe. An exception might be the EU10, but they're catching up really fast.
Also, 20-lane motorways through the centre of a city is not a sign of excellency but rather that of poor planning.
> Mississipi is bound to have a much better road system
Which brings us to "increasing greenhouse gas emissions". Also, there's rather more to both infrastructure and living standard than the number, size and quality of roads.
I'm not sure what your point is. Greenhouse gas emissions (chiefly carbon dioxide and methane) don't cause smog (caused by ground level ozone and nitrogen oxides).
Greenhouse gas emissions are not smog, and they're not air pollution in the normal sense of hurting people in their immediate vicinity.
Greenhouse gas emissions contribute to global climate change, and the per capita GHG emissions of Mississippians are more than twice as high as the per capita GHG emissions of Europeans, regardless of the local air quality.
Also, that was only one part of my comment. The other part is that most Europeans enjoy all kinds of public infrastructure intricately related to living standards that Mississippians do not. The US has decided that impeccable road infrastructure is the sine qua non of public nonmilitary expenditure, but there is an enormous opportunity cost tied into a national land use and transportation model based on ubiquitous motoring and related low densities.
Total car dependence plus industrial food and big box retail minus actual neighbourhoods, family farming or even gardening equals an ecological and public health disaster in slow motion.
Yes, but the discussion was about whether Mississippi pays higher social costs than Europe. This has nothing to do with how much C02 Mississippi itself releases.
GHG emissions are an economic externality so vast that they're driving the planet's climate into crisis. Sooner or later those costs will be internalized one way or another. In the meantime, the cost of living in places like Mississippi that have extremely high per capita emissions benefits from a huge artificial subsidy that isn't being taken into account.
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One thing to remember is that a country where one person makes $120,000 and nine others make $20,000 has the same per-capita GDP as a country where ten people make $30,000 each. Also, as m_eiman points out, PPP does not account for social costs such as increased greenhouse emissions or declining infrastructure.
It's not obvious to me that the infrastructure in Mississipi would be declining faster than the infrastructure in, say, Italy. At the very least, Mississipi is bound to have a much better road system.
Italy's roads aren't that bad, actually (at least in the north). The problem is that they are covered with Italian drivers, and there are an awful lot of them: 60 million in an area a bit smaller than California. (Well, 60 million inhabitants - not all of them drive, but more drive than they ought to)
I wasn't trying to imply that Italy's roads were bad, just pointing out that US roads are unusually excellent. I picked Italy instead of Germany to avoid a pointless message board argument comparing Germany's often-excellent roads to Mississipi's.
People (and by that I mean Americans, sorry) seem to think Germany's roads are an exception. While this may have been true 20 or 30 years ago, in reality they're pretty much the same as or even a little worse than the rest of Europe. An exception might be the EU10, but they're catching up really fast.
Also, 20-lane motorways through the centre of a city is not a sign of excellency but rather that of poor planning.
> Mississipi is bound to have a much better road system
Which brings us to "increasing greenhouse gas emissions". Also, there's rather more to both infrastructure and living standard than the number, size and quality of roads.
I'm not sure what your point is. Mississipi has many, many problems, but smog isn't one of them.
I'm not sure what your point is. Greenhouse gas emissions (chiefly carbon dioxide and methane) don't cause smog (caused by ground level ozone and nitrogen oxides).
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Fine, Ryan. s/smog/air quality. The air quality in Jackson is not detectably poorer than that in most of Germany.
Greenhouse gas emissions are not smog, and they're not air pollution in the normal sense of hurting people in their immediate vicinity.
Greenhouse gas emissions contribute to global climate change, and the per capita GHG emissions of Mississippians are more than twice as high as the per capita GHG emissions of Europeans, regardless of the local air quality.
Also, that was only one part of my comment. The other part is that most Europeans enjoy all kinds of public infrastructure intricately related to living standards that Mississippians do not. The US has decided that impeccable road infrastructure is the sine qua non of public nonmilitary expenditure, but there is an enormous opportunity cost tied into a national land use and transportation model based on ubiquitous motoring and related low densities.
See, for example:
* http://www.newsweek.com/id/76929
* http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200803/subprime
Total car dependence plus industrial food and big box retail minus actual neighbourhoods, family farming or even gardening equals an ecological and public health disaster in slow motion.
Yes, but the discussion was about whether Mississippi pays higher social costs than Europe. This has nothing to do with how much C02 Mississippi itself releases.
GHG emissions are an economic externality so vast that they're driving the planet's climate into crisis. Sooner or later those costs will be internalized one way or another. In the meantime, the cost of living in places like Mississippi that have extremely high per capita emissions benefits from a huge artificial subsidy that isn't being taken into account.