good stuff, and by no means do i dismiss things that are blue collar- its the same attitude i had towards learning software dev. more a testament to youtube than anything. I have refurbished stairs, repainted and refinished things, and done a fair amount of woodworking (mostly furniture)- I certainly wouldn't want to take on something big like electricity and plumbing etc. I was thinking something more like landscaping, redo floors, maybe do some bathroom improvements etc. Maybe you assumed I meant things much larger in scope because you think that those smaller types of changes wont actually improve the value much?