I should probably stop replying, but again, what specific thing that happened (as a step in the process that led to Eich stepping down as CEO) do you actually want to stop? You can't just wave your hands and say you don't want people to lose their job because of their opinions. The series of steps that happened here each make sense and taking action that would somehow prevent what happened would have to stop one of those steps from occurring. Which step? How would you stop it without banning speech or preventing companies from acting in their own best interest?
How about, nobody fucking makes another guy lose his job for what he votes or backs?
So, if it came out that an executive at some company had donated money to the KKK, they should be somehow forced to keep him on? This position isn't inconsistent, it's incoherent.
So, if it came out that an executive at some company had donated money to the KKK, they should be somehow forced to keep him on?
What if it came out that an executive at some company had donated money to the Republican Party?
But either way, no one is saying Mozilla should have been forced to retain Eich against their will. Rather, Mozilla's Board had decided he was the best guy for the job, despite his thoughtcrime, until enough people and companies started ganging up on them and threatening the viability of the project.
Expressing your speech is one thing, boycotting is one thing (indeed, think of all the people now boycotting Mozilla), but trying to burn down a project a là OkCupid is a whole 'nother bag.
What if it came out that an executive at some company had donated money to the Republican Party?
Then... people would be free to boycott them? The company would be free to decide, like Mozilla did, whether it's worth keeping that executive on?
I agree that the OKCupid thing was a little distasteful, but that's mostly because it was so blatantly a ploy to get themselves some of the press surrounding the situation. I still wouldn't want to enact any policy that would ban them from doing so, however.
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How about, nobody fucking makes another guy lose his job for what he votes or backs?
Does that sound incosistent?
I should probably stop replying, but again, what specific thing that happened (as a step in the process that led to Eich stepping down as CEO) do you actually want to stop? You can't just wave your hands and say you don't want people to lose their job because of their opinions. The series of steps that happened here each make sense and taking action that would somehow prevent what happened would have to stop one of those steps from occurring. Which step? How would you stop it without banning speech or preventing companies from acting in their own best interest?
So, if it came out that an executive at some company had donated money to the KKK, they should be somehow forced to keep him on? This position isn't inconsistent, it's incoherent.
What if it came out that an executive at some company had donated money to the Republican Party?
But either way, no one is saying Mozilla should have been forced to retain Eich against their will. Rather, Mozilla's Board had decided he was the best guy for the job, despite his thoughtcrime, until enough people and companies started ganging up on them and threatening the viability of the project.
Expressing your speech is one thing, boycotting is one thing (indeed, think of all the people now boycotting Mozilla), but trying to burn down a project a là OkCupid is a whole 'nother bag.
Then... people would be free to boycott them? The company would be free to decide, like Mozilla did, whether it's worth keeping that executive on?
I agree that the OKCupid thing was a little distasteful, but that's mostly because it was so blatantly a ploy to get themselves some of the press surrounding the situation. I still wouldn't want to enact any policy that would ban them from doing so, however.
At what point will people understand that someone saying "You should not do this thing" DOES NOT mean "This thing you do should be banned"?