The advocates of freedom need to reject this tactic and push this issue to the Supreme court where it belongs.
You see what's going on, but reason a bit further. The Supreme Court is part of the same government that's in the process of establishing a full police state / tyranny. Do you think they're not part of the problem?
Can a police state's Supreme Court be independent, objective, and intent on preserving freedom? -I wouldn't bet on it.
This is the system we have and it needs to run its proper course. If the Supreme court won't uphold our rights then obviously we have a serious problem. This has not happened yet. The other alternative is if the Supreme court rules spying is unconstitutional but then they are just ignored by the Executive branch and they do it anyway. We'll have to cross these bridges when we get to them but for now there is still constitutionally protected rights and limited government.
Get out while you can?
There really is nowhere to go. We have to fight for America.
The other alternative is if the Supreme court rules spying is unconstitutional but then they are just ignored by the Executive branch
Is there any doubt that mass surveillance is "unconstitutional"? Do you think the people organizing the surveillance (ie. establishing the police state) give a fuck?
for now there is still constitutionally protected rights and limited government
Constitutionally protected rights, such as Bradley Manning's habeas corpus, perhaps?
Limited government? -Oh please. The takeaway here is that strangely enough, a piece of parchment written 200+ years ago cannot magically prevent tyranny in 2014.
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You see what's going on, but reason a bit further. The Supreme Court is part of the same government that's in the process of establishing a full police state / tyranny. Do you think they're not part of the problem?
Can a police state's Supreme Court be independent, objective, and intent on preserving freedom? -I wouldn't bet on it.
Get out while you can?
This is the system we have and it needs to run its proper course. If the Supreme court won't uphold our rights then obviously we have a serious problem. This has not happened yet. The other alternative is if the Supreme court rules spying is unconstitutional but then they are just ignored by the Executive branch and they do it anyway. We'll have to cross these bridges when we get to them but for now there is still constitutionally protected rights and limited government.
There really is nowhere to go. We have to fight for America.
It is a wonderful place with wonderful people. No reason to leave it to a small number of greedy who will ruin it and everyone around them.
Is there any doubt that mass surveillance is "unconstitutional"? Do you think the people organizing the surveillance (ie. establishing the police state) give a fuck?
Constitutionally protected rights, such as Bradley Manning's habeas corpus, perhaps?
Limited government? -Oh please. The takeaway here is that strangely enough, a piece of parchment written 200+ years ago cannot magically prevent tyranny in 2014.
(Much like the very same parchment cannot magically grant some people rights that others don't have: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ng... )