Periodically there are attempts to unionize engineers in Silly Valley. I've never seen one come anywhere close to success. Most of the engineers I've worked with have seen unions as rent-seeking organizations that simply want to line their own pockets.
(There are similar periodic attempts at licensing software engineers at the state level in CA. These generally don't go well either, and appear to be the same kind of rent-seeking behavior as unions, judging from the howling nonsense proposed as core competencies to test against, e.g., lots of EE knowledge, and stuff involving obsolete technology and software development models that don't work).
No offense to you personally, but whenever I see someone proposing a union of any kind, if it doesn't involve real safety issues, I see someone trying to hold down those who can excel and protect themselves from more competent up and coming competition. It's a barrier to entry and control by seniority, period.
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It's high time we make an International Programmer's Union.
Periodically there are attempts to unionize engineers in Silly Valley. I've never seen one come anywhere close to success. Most of the engineers I've worked with have seen unions as rent-seeking organizations that simply want to line their own pockets.
(There are similar periodic attempts at licensing software engineers at the state level in CA. These generally don't go well either, and appear to be the same kind of rent-seeking behavior as unions, judging from the howling nonsense proposed as core competencies to test against, e.g., lots of EE knowledge, and stuff involving obsolete technology and software development models that don't work).
Maybe it must be done by people from the trenches.
No offense to you personally, but whenever I see someone proposing a union of any kind, if it doesn't involve real safety issues, I see someone trying to hold down those who can excel and protect themselves from more competent up and coming competition. It's a barrier to entry and control by seniority, period.
You don't think it's a logical response to companies colluding to hold down salaries?
Looks like the law has a proper response?
Yes, just the other day I was thinking how cool it would be if the software industry worked more like the auto industry.