3/4 was just a number I pulled out of my ass, but the point is if you're bringing hella value to the company you get treated like you're someone they can't afford to lose no matter what your gender. For example if you have impressive github open source contributions, experience scaling distributed systems, strong web-dev skills, infosec skills, and you've been a core member at a venture backed startup or two then you can get a job as a lead developer. There is no gender discrimination at that level of experience.
[citation needed]
You don't need to name names, just get those people to post their success stories, then point to those stories.
10 of 15 years ago is when I was watching the number of women in IT related degrees in Uni dropping significantly, mostly because of the harassment they were receiving and the attractiveness of other careers such as sewer maintenance over IT (aka "working with gynophobes"). They weren't buying any stereotype, they just didn't like being seen as sex objects that can write software. It was the men buying the stereotype.
citation is not needed just go to open source conferences and meet some of the highly skilled female developers. All of them have really excellent jobs. When you go down the (admittedly tiny) list of significant female open source contributors and kernel hackers you can check them off one by one they all have incredible jobs.
The problem is that there are so few women in open source, so few highly qualified software women in general relative to the number of men. You can still meet them though at conferences and whatnot.
If women were being scared away from a CS degree because of harassment they should have taken that complaint to the Dean or something. You don't need college to achieve this anyway you just need determination and time. All the material you need to educate yourself is available for free.
They weren't buying any stereotype, they just didn't like being seen as sex objects that can write software
You can say that about anything though.. there's no evidence that CS majors think of women as "just sex objects" any more than EE majors, math majors, or English majors. It sounds like you're just making excuses trying to blame men for women's decision to not take computer science seriously.
You can just as easily flip it around.. Perhaps many women felt that being associated with the stereotype of a "nerd in front of a computer" was would detract from their sex appeal.
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[citation needed]
You don't need to name names, just get those people to post their success stories, then point to those stories.
10 of 15 years ago is when I was watching the number of women in IT related degrees in Uni dropping significantly, mostly because of the harassment they were receiving and the attractiveness of other careers such as sewer maintenance over IT (aka "working with gynophobes"). They weren't buying any stereotype, they just didn't like being seen as sex objects that can write software. It was the men buying the stereotype.
citation is not needed just go to open source conferences and meet some of the highly skilled female developers. All of them have really excellent jobs. When you go down the (admittedly tiny) list of significant female open source contributors and kernel hackers you can check them off one by one they all have incredible jobs.
The problem is that there are so few women in open source, so few highly qualified software women in general relative to the number of men. You can still meet them though at conferences and whatnot.
If women were being scared away from a CS degree because of harassment they should have taken that complaint to the Dean or something. You don't need college to achieve this anyway you just need determination and time. All the material you need to educate yourself is available for free.
You can say that about anything though.. there's no evidence that CS majors think of women as "just sex objects" any more than EE majors, math majors, or English majors. It sounds like you're just making excuses trying to blame men for women's decision to not take computer science seriously.
You can just as easily flip it around.. Perhaps many women felt that being associated with the stereotype of a "nerd in front of a computer" was would detract from their sex appeal.