It's not a completely horrible post. It puts in one place some speculation that I have only seen in various outlets so far. I get the feeling that her citing "several different sources of mine" is just random posts by people on HN and Reddit.
I thought the M# name was completely made up during speculation, but it does indeed appear in the job posting [0] (you have to click the Job ID target 837005 to see the text) cited in this [1] reddit comment. (Edit: it's not entirely clear if M# and the language being discussed are the exact same language. I would assume they share some ideas, at least. Microsoft can't be _that_ fragmented, I would hope.)
The discussion thread on LtU hasn't pick up much steam, probably due to mid-holiday lull. I'm still a but confused about Charles Torre's comments re: HN/Reddit speculation. D and Rust were brought up in the the main source blog post [2], not by random speculators. He's right that we don't have "many of the details required to make intelligent comparisons", which is a shame. Charles also states in the comment
"Joe mentioned his desire for openness for the technology (as in open source AND open communication/transparency). That we can have this conversation in the open means Microsoft is turning a corner vis a vis transparency. I hope this trend continues."
Let's see it then. Until then, there isn't much more to say.
Edit: Tracing the various sources for parts of the speculation is interesting on its own. The various projects being cited show that Microsoft has spent a long time in this research space. I remember hearing about the Singularity OS [3] project at Microsoft, and wondering what we would see come out of it.
Well, Mary Jo Foley is a well known blogger with sources deep inside MS, and has been right on so many rumoured things, I'd say her sources are a bit better than reading Reddit; the problem arises in trying not to burn those sources, so discussing public info and adding her extra knowledge to it is a good way of achieving that.
Thanks for the links. I saw that post on /r/programming earlier today, but hadn't investigated it yet. It'll be interesting to see some real ideas come out.
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It's not a completely horrible post. It puts in one place some speculation that I have only seen in various outlets so far. I get the feeling that her citing "several different sources of mine" is just random posts by people on HN and Reddit.
I thought the M# name was completely made up during speculation, but it does indeed appear in the job posting [0] (you have to click the Job ID target 837005 to see the text) cited in this [1] reddit comment. (Edit: it's not entirely clear if M# and the language being discussed are the exact same language. I would assume they share some ideas, at least. Microsoft can't be _that_ fragmented, I would hope.)
The discussion thread on LtU hasn't pick up much steam, probably due to mid-holiday lull. I'm still a but confused about Charles Torre's comments re: HN/Reddit speculation. D and Rust were brought up in the the main source blog post [2], not by random speculators. He's right that we don't have "many of the details required to make intelligent comparisons", which is a shame. Charles also states in the comment
Let's see it then. Until then, there isn't much more to say.
[0] https://careers.microsoft.com/resumepreview.aspx?aid=111551
[1] http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1tvic1/the_micr...
[2] http://joeduffyblog.com/2013/12/27/csharp-for-systems-progra...
Edit: Tracing the various sources for parts of the speculation is interesting on its own. The various projects being cited show that Microsoft has spent a long time in this research space. I remember hearing about the Singularity OS [3] project at Microsoft, and wondering what we would see come out of it.
[3] https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/singularity/
Well, Mary Jo Foley is a well known blogger with sources deep inside MS, and has been right on so many rumoured things, I'd say her sources are a bit better than reading Reddit; the problem arises in trying not to burn those sources, so discussing public info and adding her extra knowledge to it is a good way of achieving that.
There is a post on G+ about the error model:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6983904
The author is participating in this reddit thread:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1tzk5j/the_m_er...
Thanks for the links. I saw that post on /r/programming earlier today, but hadn't investigated it yet. It'll be interesting to see some real ideas come out.