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How did they handle the release? I don't have an iPhone so I haven't seen much, but I know there's some hubbub around this.

In short:

• evad3rs released an iOS7 jailbreak unexpectedly due to a leak

• it became apparent that it bundles some Chinese piracy store with no other legitimate purpose [0]

• information is made public that the evad3rs were paid $1M USD to include the piracy store

• evad3rs say they weren't aware it was for piracy (and never bothered to check)

• evad3rs aren't even sure if the Chinese bundle is malicious, it sends home encrypted something [1]

• evad3rs remove the Chinese bundles from their server and activate their kill switch [2]

pod2g promises to release a clean jailbreak [3]

The end result is that the jailbreak ruined the trust of the community by including crapware and possibly malware, enabling mass piracy, ultimately not even bothering to check the binaries that they were paid to include. They've burnt Geohot's exploits for a 7.1 jailbreak, as the release timing means that they will be patched by Apple and be completely useless in the future. The jailbreak they released is worthless for the moment due to them not bothering to include the proper Substrate releases from saurik.

[0]: https://twitter.com/pod2g/status/414810029376933889

[0]: https://twitter.com/pod2g/status/415114461473964032

[0]: https://twitter.com/pod2g/status/414820772931067905

[1]: https://twitter.com/pod2g/status/415116127292108801

[2]: https://twitter.com/pod2g/status/414942393830756352

[3]: https://twitter.com/pod2g/status/415125262989557760

I'm just gonna throw this out there, even though it's wild speculation...

  They've burnt Geohot's exploits for a 7.1 
  jailbreak, as the release timing means that 
  they will be patched by Apple and be completely 
  useless in the future.

  The jailbreak they released is worthless for 
  the moment due to them not bothering to include 
  the proper Substrate releases from saurik.
This all comes through at a curious moment, when Apple announces a massive deal that opens up a truly vast Chinese market for them.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/23/us-apple-china-mob...

So, like, what if Apple and the Communist Chinese have colluded to prevent jailbroken iPhones in China, as part of the deal? Mostly because we're already talking about buy-offs and leaks with curious timing... So, somewhere along the line Xi Jinping and Tim Cook have a little sit down, and shortly thereafter, members of PLA Unit 61398 approach evad3rs on IRC all like:

  "the people of china need iPhones, but the chinese 
   government, needs them to be 'safe' [wink]... 
   if we give you certain... packages, mr. hotz is uh... 
   known to have, maybe eh... well ...listen, i'm just 
   going to come out and say it... geohotz needs to 
   take a fall. here's a retainer, see what you can do." 

  </hand-wavey-magical-thinking>

If they had already known about the exploit, it would have been much easier and more straightforward for them to just fix it.

tbh and not trying to defend them here but $1M is quite a bit, it make people thinks you know...

Oh wow, thanks for that summary, very succinct. It sounds quite the cl*sterfuck...

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