GitHub took it down because shit like that makes it hard for women to do their jobs, and github is about getting work done.
It's also not terribly funny. Or rather, it would have been funny in the heyday of the constellation of academic disciplines now colloquially known as 'subaltern studies'. But that heyday was some time ago now, and it survives only in the Republican trust of bogeymen. Sorry, bogeywomen. Trust me, I have unemployed professor friends.
But let's be honest. Read the thing. It's not feminism that is in question, it is the dictum that your freedom to swing your fist ends at my nose -- or in this case, the right of you and your brethren to swing your d*cks in the face of the female colleagues you work beside.
May the universe drill a single functional mirror neuron into one of your empathy-free heads. But I get to pick which.
You seem to believe that Github should be taking down things because "it makes it hard ... to get work done." Okay. Suppose you have some Republicans who want hosting on Github (yay Github Pages!) and they support some initiative which also, in your opinion, hinders "getting work done", for women or otherwise. Perhaps they very-publicly oppose a mandatory child-care provision in some proposed legislation, and write it on their page.
Should that be taken down too? If not, why does it differ?
What if they're hosting a website for someone, and that someone makes a public statement which is interpreted as misogynistic and wrong - e.g. Todd Akin uses Github Pages for his general campaign, and posts a defense of his nonsense about "legitimate rape". Should Github take that down?
I think it's offensive to women to imply that they aren't capable of handling some feminist satire. Both men and women are targets of satire ALL THE TIME. Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are portrayed as the 'typical father' are irresponsible uneducated alcoholics. Do you honestly think this gives me a good reason to be crying to the television companies about how hard they're making it for me to watch TV?
You would probably like to think that you believe men and women are equal, but you clearly do not, because you insist on treating them like overly-sensitive children.
As a woman, I'll be offended on my own behalf thank you very much.
As a guy, if you feel the need to tell people whether or not to be offended you can scratch that itch by going to tell these guys to stop being offended or annoyed by the stereotype of idiot dads on tv - http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/12/living/dumb-dad-stereotype/
I think their offense (and yours) is laughable, but keep in mind that mens issues are largely ignored by most people, including men, and feminists who claim to be fighting for gender equality.
Women taking offense, just in the tech industry over the past 2 years alone has 'accomplished' quite a lot. Here's a few:
-Gotten a man fired from his job (Adria Richards)
-Raised $160,000 in exchange for a series of youtube videos on video games made from other youtube videos by a woman who has admitted she isn't a gamer (Anita Sarkeesian)
-Gotten a repo on github taken down (This whole Feminist Software Foundation thing)
And who knows what else?
Do you honestly think that men taking offense carries as much weight?
So many men are willing to bend to your every whim, just because they think you being a woman makes you less capable, and if that isn't sexism, then I don't know what is.
Who cares if something is rude. Rudeness shouldn't be the deciding factor for taking something down.
Is it rude to name your program/repo god[1]?
Is it rude to use foul language[2]?
Is it rude to write code in something that isn't ruby?
Who decides whats rude enough to be taken down and what isn't? Why should I believe my text is safe when someone found another text rude enough to be taken down.
FYI, her name is Catharine MacKinnon. You may wish to learn how to spell it, and then maybe read her papers again.
Also, I am always a bit stunned by comedians and other performers who encourage censorship of speech they dislike. That goes double for comedians speaking for groups that have been traditionally marginalized by society.
You're right. And I'm disappointed with myself, for being baited into making precisely the sort of joke that pissed me off in the first place, hence the comment deletion. But I'm also so upset that the rest of my workday is shot. Spelling? Definitely out.
A repo seems the perfect implementation of speech, where as the fist nose swinging metaphor has always up until now been about physical real world actions involving ... your nose.
Oh, and also, BitBucket? I may be a woman, but I am also calling the shots in my workplace, and I'm about to go find another provider. Your free repos were nice, but this isn't. So.
I'm just trying to clarify this here. I haven't seen any statement from BitBucket for or against this repository, so... What specifically has BitBucket done wrong, exactly, that you are ending your business relationship with them (informal as it is)?
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GitHub took it down because shit like that makes it hard for women to do their jobs, and github is about getting work done.
It's also not terribly funny. Or rather, it would have been funny in the heyday of the constellation of academic disciplines now colloquially known as 'subaltern studies'. But that heyday was some time ago now, and it survives only in the Republican trust of bogeymen. Sorry, bogeywomen. Trust me, I have unemployed professor friends.
But let's be honest. Read the thing. It's not feminism that is in question, it is the dictum that your freedom to swing your fist ends at my nose -- or in this case, the right of you and your brethren to swing your d*cks in the face of the female colleagues you work beside.
May the universe drill a single functional mirror neuron into one of your empathy-free heads. But I get to pick which.
You seem to believe that Github should be taking down things because "it makes it hard ... to get work done." Okay. Suppose you have some Republicans who want hosting on Github (yay Github Pages!) and they support some initiative which also, in your opinion, hinders "getting work done", for women or otherwise. Perhaps they very-publicly oppose a mandatory child-care provision in some proposed legislation, and write it on their page.
Should that be taken down too? If not, why does it differ?
What if they're hosting a website for someone, and that someone makes a public statement which is interpreted as misogynistic and wrong - e.g. Todd Akin uses Github Pages for his general campaign, and posts a defense of his nonsense about "legitimate rape". Should Github take that down?
I think it's offensive to women to imply that they aren't capable of handling some feminist satire. Both men and women are targets of satire ALL THE TIME. Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are portrayed as the 'typical father' are irresponsible uneducated alcoholics. Do you honestly think this gives me a good reason to be crying to the television companies about how hard they're making it for me to watch TV?
You would probably like to think that you believe men and women are equal, but you clearly do not, because you insist on treating them like overly-sensitive children.
As a woman, I'll be offended on my own behalf thank you very much.
As a guy, if you feel the need to tell people whether or not to be offended you can scratch that itch by going to tell these guys to stop being offended or annoyed by the stereotype of idiot dads on tv - http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/12/living/dumb-dad-stereotype/
I think their offense (and yours) is laughable, but keep in mind that mens issues are largely ignored by most people, including men, and feminists who claim to be fighting for gender equality.
Women taking offense, just in the tech industry over the past 2 years alone has 'accomplished' quite a lot. Here's a few:
-Gotten a man fired from his job (Adria Richards) -Raised $160,000 in exchange for a series of youtube videos on video games made from other youtube videos by a woman who has admitted she isn't a gamer (Anita Sarkeesian) -Gotten a repo on github taken down (This whole Feminist Software Foundation thing)
And who knows what else?
Do you honestly think that men taking offense carries as much weight? So many men are willing to bend to your every whim, just because they think you being a woman makes you less capable, and if that isn't sexism, then I don't know what is.
... And the perpetually offended will be offended. It's time to quit caving to the speech police.
How many feminists does it take to create a programing language?
THATS NOT FUNNY.
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Who cares if something is rude. Rudeness shouldn't be the deciding factor for taking something down.
Is it rude to name your program/repo god[1]?
Is it rude to use foul language[2]?
Is it rude to write code in something that isn't ruby?
Who decides whats rude enough to be taken down and what isn't? Why should I believe my text is safe when someone found another text rude enough to be taken down.
[1]: https://github.com/mojombo/god [2]: http://programming-motherfucker.com/
FYI, her name is Catharine MacKinnon. You may wish to learn how to spell it, and then maybe read her papers again.
Also, I am always a bit stunned by comedians and other performers who encourage censorship of speech they dislike. That goes double for comedians speaking for groups that have been traditionally marginalized by society.
You're right. And I'm disappointed with myself, for being baited into making precisely the sort of joke that pissed me off in the first place, hence the comment deletion. But I'm also so upset that the rest of my workday is shot. Spelling? Definitely out.
Well, just because someone gets on stage and tells jokes doesn't mean they're a comedian.
Whose nose did that repo when swinging end at?
A repo seems the perfect implementation of speech, where as the fist nose swinging metaphor has always up until now been about physical real world actions involving ... your nose.
Oh, and also, BitBucket? I may be a woman, but I am also calling the shots in my workplace, and I'm about to go find another provider. Your free repos were nice, but this isn't. So.
wow. first time I've seen a comment where somebody threatens to boycott a company for not taking down user content.
These are strange days indeed. People who consider themselves to be socially liberal actually think censorship is good.
feminists gonna femininize
I'm just trying to clarify this here. I haven't seen any statement from BitBucket for or against this repository, so... What specifically has BitBucket done wrong, exactly, that you are ending your business relationship with them (informal as it is)?
They offended this beautiful flower by being misogynistic pigs.