Data? You mean small focused charter schools that are opt-in so inherently all the students at least have an advocate to fight for them are doing better than the regular classroom where there are students with and without advocates? There is huge bias in small, focused charter schools because you're dealing with kids who all have someone who cares enough for them to switch schools and their success is not an indication of anything.
There is a wide range of charter schools but just like the public education system a ton of them are terrible and even have huge scandals. There are a few bright spots, but it's overshadowed by the biases they hold, the excessive focus on useless tests, and financial corruption found in some schools.
Did not mean to be condescending I have a lot of friends at charter schools (teaching) and I just don't see this as any type of real solution.
That is a major issue. Though I would argue that like many things in America, we have a false image of ourselves. Our school system is setup to be socialist, where everyone gets exactly 1 unit of education and then are released into a supposedly free-market world. That doesn't work, and the flaws in charter schools you are pointing out are actually exposing the faults in believing it's possible to deliver exactly 1 unit of education to all citizens.
I think a lot of folks worried about education reform are running around with some sort of utopian dream for how the world could be, while not realizing that there are philosophical arguments that have to be made almost simultaneously around the notion that not everyone is capable of being educated the same level, nor do they want to be.
What happened to the pride of voc-ed schools where kids learned specific skills that would help them earn an income and hopefully provide a high quality of life for their future families? Put more bluntly: What is the goal of education?
If we can't answer that, we have no business trying to legislate betters schools.
One other interesting data point with charter schools (and most opt-in schools) is they (usually) have the ability to kick out misbehavers and not have to deal with as many LD kids. The public schools often have little mitigation with said pupils.
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Data? You mean small focused charter schools that are opt-in so inherently all the students at least have an advocate to fight for them are doing better than the regular classroom where there are students with and without advocates? There is huge bias in small, focused charter schools because you're dealing with kids who all have someone who cares enough for them to switch schools and their success is not an indication of anything.
There is a wide range of charter schools but just like the public education system a ton of them are terrible and even have huge scandals. There are a few bright spots, but it's overshadowed by the biases they hold, the excessive focus on useless tests, and financial corruption found in some schools.
Did not mean to be condescending I have a lot of friends at charter schools (teaching) and I just don't see this as any type of real solution.
A fair point, and not condescending at all :)
That is a major issue. Though I would argue that like many things in America, we have a false image of ourselves. Our school system is setup to be socialist, where everyone gets exactly 1 unit of education and then are released into a supposedly free-market world. That doesn't work, and the flaws in charter schools you are pointing out are actually exposing the faults in believing it's possible to deliver exactly 1 unit of education to all citizens.
I think a lot of folks worried about education reform are running around with some sort of utopian dream for how the world could be, while not realizing that there are philosophical arguments that have to be made almost simultaneously around the notion that not everyone is capable of being educated the same level, nor do they want to be.
What happened to the pride of voc-ed schools where kids learned specific skills that would help them earn an income and hopefully provide a high quality of life for their future families? Put more bluntly: What is the goal of education?
If we can't answer that, we have no business trying to legislate betters schools.
One other interesting data point with charter schools (and most opt-in schools) is they (usually) have the ability to kick out misbehavers and not have to deal with as many LD kids. The public schools often have little mitigation with said pupils.