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  > It has not been my experience that cutting-edge web design 
  > has made huge differences to sales in the sort of markets
  > I tend to operate in
With all due respect, but BCC never had "cutting-edge" web design, it was always (at least in the incarnations I saw) barely adequate design-wise. http://panic.com or http://tapbots.com or http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com is what I'd call well designed. What's interesting they all also look like template design, but they have the polished look BSS is lacking.

Of course, maybe you have something other than BCC in mind, or you did try the design on par with the examples above and it did not convert well, then disregard this comment.

I was thinking less BCC and more the consulting career when I thought that. Not going to point fingers, obviously, but you'd be surprised how little a $X0,000 redesign (from meh to almost-wow) did relative to e.g. changing the H1 on the front page.

Exactly right, but also exactly wrong. patio11 made an understatement to get his point across - that design doesn't matter as much as people think. That you, respectfully, call Bingo Card Creator not even close to cutting edge just makes his argument stronger.

  > patio11 made an understatement to get his point across -
  > that design doesn't matter as much as people think
That may very well be true (and I think it is true in a sense). But I can also argue that without testing with truly polished design you only know that one "not-quite-there-yet" design has no advantage over other of the same kind.

Sorry, but the three designs you posted may have been well designed 10 years ago but now they just look old.

I personally think they look like trendy hipster design. Not much text explaining anything, just a load of icons I am supposed to understand without any context.

Seems to appeal to the iPhone generation.

Then do you have counterexamples for sites you would say have a modern look?

Warning: Incoming flat design.

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