Yup. I was watching a video about the history of BSD recently and I was surprised at how closely DARPA was involved. Marshall McCusick was describing how he, Bill Joy and others were at Berkeley and literally implementing the Internet in BSD! They were funded by DARPA and were overseen by DARPA admnistrators. But they actually were not doing all of it -- DARPA was also paying private contractors for other components. (Which ended up in some technical disagreements as I recall.)
That BSD code is of course not only the foundation of the Internet, but of your iPhones and iPads as well. Actually I believe it is fundamental to Windows as well, since my understanding is that the TCP/IP implementation in Windows is BSD code.
Silicon Valley doesn't have the foresight for the technical foundations of society (and I say that having worked here for over a decade). The web wasn't invented by Silicon Valley either. Neither was e-mail. Neither was Perl, PHP, Python, or Ruby. Python was actually government funded too.
Also don't forget that Bill Clinton and the government made all your location-based apps possible, by opening GPS satellites to the public in the 90s.
Key quotes around 8:30 - 9:00, but the whole thing is excellent. DARPA was funding all sorts of different networking and operating systems, which in those days were all incompatible. But they wanted them to cooperate, hence open source BSD and the Internet.
Silicon Valley doesn't get this kind of cooperation. In stark contrast, a proven business tactic is to undermine cooperation by poisoning open standards (e.g. embrace and extend).
historic significance does not matter much. what it is doing now?
it is no wonder that someone who has private transportation, private insurance, private retirement, private everything... does not care about government. he is the embodiement of the capitalistic dream. government for those people is only for taxation. of course they would cheer.
the weird part is the middle class worker with the obama bumper sticker cheering for them. this i will never understand,
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Yup. I was watching a video about the history of BSD recently and I was surprised at how closely DARPA was involved. Marshall McCusick was describing how he, Bill Joy and others were at Berkeley and literally implementing the Internet in BSD! They were funded by DARPA and were overseen by DARPA admnistrators. But they actually were not doing all of it -- DARPA was also paying private contractors for other components. (Which ended up in some technical disagreements as I recall.)
That BSD code is of course not only the foundation of the Internet, but of your iPhones and iPads as well. Actually I believe it is fundamental to Windows as well, since my understanding is that the TCP/IP implementation in Windows is BSD code.
Silicon Valley doesn't have the foresight for the technical foundations of society (and I say that having worked here for over a decade). The web wasn't invented by Silicon Valley either. Neither was e-mail. Neither was Perl, PHP, Python, or Ruby. Python was actually government funded too.
Also don't forget that Bill Clinton and the government made all your location-based apps possible, by opening GPS satellites to the public in the 90s.
EDIT: Watch this video for details! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds77e3aO9nA
Key quotes around 8:30 - 9:00, but the whole thing is excellent. DARPA was funding all sorts of different networking and operating systems, which in those days were all incompatible. But they wanted them to cooperate, hence open source BSD and the Internet.
Silicon Valley doesn't get this kind of cooperation. In stark contrast, a proven business tactic is to undermine cooperation by poisoning open standards (e.g. embrace and extend).
historic significance does not matter much. what it is doing now?
it is no wonder that someone who has private transportation, private insurance, private retirement, private everything... does not care about government. he is the embodiement of the capitalistic dream. government for those people is only for taxation. of course they would cheer.
the weird part is the middle class worker with the obama bumper sticker cheering for them. this i will never understand,
Not to mention the wars overseas and the war on drugs. The U.S. is the most incarcerating country in the world (ignoring North Korea).
I'll trade my roads, my Linux, my Android phone, whatever in exchange for the ending of killing those overseas and domestically.
That's quite an ode.