This, as device, is brilliant. Like it or not most PCs (or work machines) are powered by Windows so it's much easier for one to use a Windows Tablet /Laptop. If I was in the market, I'd forget iPad and Android and buy this, as an extension of my PC. If it can do everything iPad can, why would I buy a device with a new operating system, with it's limitations and where I can't use my existing apps? The need to easily type is vastly underrated IMO. This can also serve as a laptop replacement, at least temporarily, something iPad cannot.
Microsoft can easily mark it down to barely make any profit on it for quite a while, the screen resolution and tech behind it will be a non-issue soon, so it's just the ecosystem. For Windows users it makes perfect sense to stick with Windows.
>The need to easily type is vastly underrated IMO.
You can use a bluetooth keyboard with iPad, there are cases with built in keyboards too. I assume the same is true for Android.
Careful in your enthusiasm, you might sound like a fan boy :-)
But I will buy one when it can do what I miss on my iPad -- run Debian/Ubuntu/etc with good hardware support. Unless the Android pads seduce me first.
Edit: Oh my g.d, the comments on this video are more positive to Surface than Apple's users are about the polished UI/hardware. Lots of ip:s from Redmond? :-)
Sometime the integrated pads/computers will be good for most people, but I (and Apple, it seems) doubt it is 2013 or 2014.
The "concept" of Surface 2 is the same idea as the first, but maybe the execution is good enough to compete with the coming iPads/Androids, now... The extreme enthusiasm for something a year old seems funny.
Anyway, it is nice to see Microsoft trying to pioneer a niche for once. But maybe it is an unfilled niche for a reason?
(When/if this integration happens, there will probably be transparent use of extra processing units over the network. Considering needed rewrites and slow US network speed, it seems unlikely to happen even 2015.)
The old Surface Pro was nice, but for me the Docking Station is a huge step to replacing many peoples Home PC. Also Haswell which is more powerful and alot less power hungry with a decent GPU. Thats why i am alot more excited than last year.
Apple seems to think different right now, thats right, so did Microsoft when the first iPhone came out. Time will tell, i love that they try stuff!
Careful in your enthusiasm, you might sound like a fan boy :-)
Ah, only Android and Apple stuff can be praised? Sorry, but I don't care about their latest "innovation" or marketing hype unless it's worth it. And I don't care how I sound, as long as I'm being honest. I have Windows 7 on desktop and laptop and an Android tablet ~$100 range to check some news. If I could undo it, I'd have a Surface Pro to replace the laptop and tablet and do all an operating system can. That's all.
But I will buy one when it can do what I miss on my iPad -- run Debian/Ubuntu/etc with good hardware support. Unless the Android pads seduce me first.
That is probably less than 1% of the user base. On the other end, I still have Photoshop 6.0 installed and it does the job for the things I need. I don't know when I bought it but I keep transferring from machine to machine as I upgrade.
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This, as device, is brilliant. Like it or not most PCs (or work machines) are powered by Windows so it's much easier for one to use a Windows Tablet /Laptop. If I was in the market, I'd forget iPad and Android and buy this, as an extension of my PC. If it can do everything iPad can, why would I buy a device with a new operating system, with it's limitations and where I can't use my existing apps? The need to easily type is vastly underrated IMO. This can also serve as a laptop replacement, at least temporarily, something iPad cannot.
Microsoft can easily mark it down to barely make any profit on it for quite a while, the screen resolution and tech behind it will be a non-issue soon, so it's just the ecosystem. For Windows users it makes perfect sense to stick with Windows.
Bluetooth keyboards work on iPads too.
Exactly, and everyone has an iPad/iPhone... so...
Also you should check out the music/dj scene on iOS. It is crazily well developed and integrated, and unique to iOS.
Windows is to tablets what mac was to PCs in the 90s. A kind of underdog that despite good efforts never seems to pull it off.
"Bluetooth keyboards work on iPads too."
Which is a substantially smaller set than all the USB/Wireless/Bluetooth keyboards that will work on Surface.
You can use a bluetooth keyboard with iPad, there are cases with built in keyboards too. I assume the same is true for Android.
Careful in your enthusiasm, you might sound like a fan boy :-)
But I will buy one when it can do what I miss on my iPad -- run Debian/Ubuntu/etc with good hardware support. Unless the Android pads seduce me first.
Edit: Oh my g.d, the comments on this video are more positive to Surface than Apple's users are about the polished UI/hardware. Lots of ip:s from Redmond? :-)
i praise the concept of this device and i own a Mac Pro, Macboor Air, iPad and iPhone 4s (now replaced by Android).
Sometime the integrated pads/computers will be good for most people, but I (and Apple, it seems) doubt it is 2013 or 2014.
The "concept" of Surface 2 is the same idea as the first, but maybe the execution is good enough to compete with the coming iPads/Androids, now... The extreme enthusiasm for something a year old seems funny.
Anyway, it is nice to see Microsoft trying to pioneer a niche for once. But maybe it is an unfilled niche for a reason?
(When/if this integration happens, there will probably be transparent use of extra processing units over the network. Considering needed rewrites and slow US network speed, it seems unlikely to happen even 2015.)
The old Surface Pro was nice, but for me the Docking Station is a huge step to replacing many peoples Home PC. Also Haswell which is more powerful and alot less power hungry with a decent GPU. Thats why i am alot more excited than last year. Apple seems to think different right now, thats right, so did Microsoft when the first iPhone came out. Time will tell, i love that they try stuff!
Careful in your enthusiasm, you might sound like a fan boy :-)
Ah, only Android and Apple stuff can be praised? Sorry, but I don't care about their latest "innovation" or marketing hype unless it's worth it. And I don't care how I sound, as long as I'm being honest. I have Windows 7 on desktop and laptop and an Android tablet ~$100 range to check some news. If I could undo it, I'd have a Surface Pro to replace the laptop and tablet and do all an operating system can. That's all.
But I will buy one when it can do what I miss on my iPad -- run Debian/Ubuntu/etc with good hardware support. Unless the Android pads seduce me first.
That is probably less than 1% of the user base. On the other end, I still have Photoshop 6.0 installed and it does the job for the things I need. I don't know when I bought it but I keep transferring from machine to machine as I upgrade.