I live in SF and constantly joke about how gross and dirty it is. However, I recently went to NYC and I'll have to say that relatively, SF actually is much cleaner than I gave it credit for. It's just that the gross areas in SF are REALLY gross. The trash and poo in SF are largely concentrated in the areas you mention. As an example, even in the Upper Haight, it's only bad on Haight street itself. The streets just parallel, Page and Waller, are quite clean. In Manhattan, there's a thin layer of grime and garbage spread out everywhere. I will have to say that I didn't see any human poo in NYC. That seems to be a unique feature of San Francisco.
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Where in SF was this (feces, needles, etc)? SF is the cleanest city I've spent time in.
You're kidding right? I guess you haven't been to the Tenderloin, Western Addition, Mission, 6th & Market, Upper Haight, Chinatown, etc...?
I live in SF and constantly joke about how gross and dirty it is. However, I recently went to NYC and I'll have to say that relatively, SF actually is much cleaner than I gave it credit for. It's just that the gross areas in SF are REALLY gross. The trash and poo in SF are largely concentrated in the areas you mention. As an example, even in the Upper Haight, it's only bad on Haight street itself. The streets just parallel, Page and Waller, are quite clean. In Manhattan, there's a thin layer of grime and garbage spread out everywhere. I will have to say that I didn't see any human poo in NYC. That seems to be a unique feature of San Francisco.
Same thing with Boston. The Cambridge side of town is nicer, but generally dirty all around.
I apologize... Spent most of my time just east of Golden Gate Park
So what you're saying is you're too high to notice.
Come visit New Orleans.
I was there recently actually - problem is it doesn't fall under the rubric of "city" as described in the GP...more of a war zone :-)