smalltalk is so dead nowadays that I see no point wishing to move out of it's shadow.
A lot of research has been done from it, many different languages have proven to be more interesting from many aspects etc etc no need to argue about that.
The good thing about bring it back to life is for educational purpose, as, unlike many other research, smalltalks tended to have more complete and mature development environment, and I believe it might be inspiring get a feel of how to do things that way, I doubt any kid today will be inspired by doing something on vxworks
I love how people is so fast to bash the work of others. And I love to see how people can be so arrogant that they can ignore the main principle of communication: give arguments when you state something.
Smalltalk is not dead, but is true is not mainstream.
Nevertheless, there are companies using it in very large and hard environments (JP Morgan, OCML, etc.) and there are many researchers using it and bringing new cool stuff every year (stuff that in time can or cannot be ported to other languages), for example the research team where I work.
Yes... is not popular as Java, or .NET, or even Python. But banishing a language for not being popular is the worst argument I ever hear.
sorry I didn't mean to bash other people's work, quite the opposite. Even if it's not mainstream and probably not the "next great thing", I welcome anyone who has passion to develop it and bring it to the masses.
I don't understand why you are offended because I said that smalltalk is dead. It's just a way to say that it's not mainstream and probably it will never be again. And the sad thing is that for most part the reason of its reduced popularity has nothing to do with its technical merits, but this deserves a whole thread and if I remember correctly it has been covered many times before.
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smalltalk is so dead nowadays that I see no point wishing to move out of it's shadow. A lot of research has been done from it, many different languages have proven to be more interesting from many aspects etc etc no need to argue about that.
The good thing about bring it back to life is for educational purpose, as, unlike many other research, smalltalks tended to have more complete and mature development environment, and I believe it might be inspiring get a feel of how to do things that way, I doubt any kid today will be inspired by doing something on vxworks
I love how people is so fast to bash the work of others. And I love to see how people can be so arrogant that they can ignore the main principle of communication: give arguments when you state something. Smalltalk is not dead, but is true is not mainstream. Nevertheless, there are companies using it in very large and hard environments (JP Morgan, OCML, etc.) and there are many researchers using it and bringing new cool stuff every year (stuff that in time can or cannot be ported to other languages), for example the research team where I work.
Yes... is not popular as Java, or .NET, or even Python. But banishing a language for not being popular is the worst argument I ever hear.
sorry I didn't mean to bash other people's work, quite the opposite. Even if it's not mainstream and probably not the "next great thing", I welcome anyone who has passion to develop it and bring it to the masses.
I don't understand why you are offended because I said that smalltalk is dead. It's just a way to say that it's not mainstream and probably it will never be again. And the sad thing is that for most part the reason of its reduced popularity has nothing to do with its technical merits, but this deserves a whole thread and if I remember correctly it has been covered many times before.