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If I want to build a rich js app, with no hash tag URLs (meaning - Google can crawl everything), would you still use Backbone/angular.

I'm an amateur when it comes to JavaScript, but we had to jump through a lot of hoops to get a map based application working in Backbone (which was crawlable)-plus the performance was not as good as ... well,let me say competitors not using Backbone.

Probably not. If you tried to build something like StackOverflow where the interface is Google, then you will never be competitive using either Angular or Backbone. I say this as a person that likes Angular (but hates Backbone).

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