What are you talking about? Britain was his government/country. By today's definitions the man was a terrorist aid. The founding fathers were all terrorists doing things like the Boston Tea Party and shooting only officers when rules of the day prohibited that kind of behavior.
Have you ever read the Declaration of Independence? It didn't just declare that a new nation exists. It declared why that action was taken, and made clear that the action wasn't being taken lightly:
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
And later,
The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
Seriously, read the whole thing. It is a wonderful document which stands on its own, and explains why these Americans no longer considered themselves British, and also why it was not some mere disagreement with their government.
Now, are you going to claim that government operation of a legally-instituted (and reviewed!) program that the majority of the population supports is "absolute Tyranny" with the sole purpose of oppression of the American populace?
I'm just saying, I'd prefer we at least attempt to give the press, the EFF, the ACLU, and the concerned citizenry such as myself and many of my own friends a shot at fixing it before we go saying that violence and terror is the answer.
I'm not saying violence and terror is the answer. I believe the answer is we have to infiltrate the government itself. I don't want to be a politician but I see no other way to fix the US at this point.
As many of us as possible need to join the ranks of governments and start slowly making changes. Some of us will be voted out quickly, some of us will fall to corruption but if enough of us can keep our ideals we could turn this around. But voting and protesting aren't going to work.
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What are you talking about? Britain was his government/country. By today's definitions the man was a terrorist aid. The founding fathers were all terrorists doing things like the Boston Tea Party and shooting only officers when rules of the day prohibited that kind of behavior.
Have you ever read the Declaration of Independence? It didn't just declare that a new nation exists. It declared why that action was taken, and made clear that the action wasn't being taken lightly:
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transc...
And later,
Seriously, read the whole thing. It is a wonderful document which stands on its own, and explains why these Americans no longer considered themselves British, and also why it was not some mere disagreement with their government.
Now, are you going to claim that government operation of a legally-instituted (and reviewed!) program that the majority of the population supports is "absolute Tyranny" with the sole purpose of oppression of the American populace?
I'm just saying, I'd prefer we at least attempt to give the press, the EFF, the ACLU, and the concerned citizenry such as myself and many of my own friends a shot at fixing it before we go saying that violence and terror is the answer.
I'm not saying violence and terror is the answer. I believe the answer is we have to infiltrate the government itself. I don't want to be a politician but I see no other way to fix the US at this point.
As many of us as possible need to join the ranks of governments and start slowly making changes. Some of us will be voted out quickly, some of us will fall to corruption but if enough of us can keep our ideals we could turn this around. But voting and protesting aren't going to work.