Sorry, I should have said "lack of true threading in CPython" by which I mean the GIL limitation. And lambda expressions are lame compared to what you can do in JavaScript/Perl/Scala. And the build tools suck compared to Maven which is saying a lot. Maven is cross-platform and install-free. It takes a long time to makes head and tails of pip, easy_install and virtualenv and it still does less than Maven.
>And lambda expressions are lame compared to what you can do in JavaScript/Perl/Scala.
Python lets you pass functions other ways than using lambdas, you know. If you've defined a function with the standard "def foo" style, you can pass "foo" as an argument.
Even the standard "1-line lambdas LOL" limitation can be circumvented by defining the function elsewhere and making the lambda a call to it.
Lambda expressions are not necessarily first-class functions (I mean, they are in Python, but so is any other old function).
First class functions simply mean that a language treats functions as it would nearly any other data type, namely that they may be passed as parameters, bound to variables, and returned from other functions.
Python's poor handling of lambda expressions do not invalidate that functions are first-class citizens.
What do you use "true" threading for? Are you multiplying matrices? If so use Numpy. Are you downloading data and accessing database? If so, you threading, threading in Python works great for that. If you hit memory size issues, switch to gevent or eventlet for green threads.
I have been building large projects in Python for the last 10 yeas and never really thought "Hmm I wish I had more powerful lambda functions". You can always just have regular function and pass that around. Why do you need lambdas so much?
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Sorry, I should have said "lack of true threading in CPython" by which I mean the GIL limitation. And lambda expressions are lame compared to what you can do in JavaScript/Perl/Scala. And the build tools suck compared to Maven which is saying a lot. Maven is cross-platform and install-free. It takes a long time to makes head and tails of pip, easy_install and virtualenv and it still does less than Maven.
>And lambda expressions are lame compared to what you can do in JavaScript/Perl/Scala.
Python lets you pass functions other ways than using lambdas, you know. If you've defined a function with the standard "def foo" style, you can pass "foo" as an argument.
Even the standard "1-line lambdas LOL" limitation can be circumvented by defining the function elsewhere and making the lambda a call to it.
Lambda expressions are not necessarily first-class functions (I mean, they are in Python, but so is any other old function).
First class functions simply mean that a language treats functions as it would nearly any other data type, namely that they may be passed as parameters, bound to variables, and returned from other functions.
Python's poor handling of lambda expressions do not invalidate that functions are first-class citizens.
What do you use "true" threading for? Are you multiplying matrices? If so use Numpy. Are you downloading data and accessing database? If so, you threading, threading in Python works great for that. If you hit memory size issues, switch to gevent or eventlet for green threads.
I have been building large projects in Python for the last 10 yeas and never really thought "Hmm I wish I had more powerful lambda functions". You can always just have regular function and pass that around. Why do you need lambdas so much?