That is patronizing and wrong. I did address your point fairly directly modulo the sarcasm.
Public infrastructure provides economic benefits throughout the economy, enabling more economic activity; which more than makes up for the money withdrawn from circulation by taxation.
If you cannot wrap your head around this concept. You have no business lecturing others about basic economics.
Governments are not exempt from economic forces, in fact a very good argument could be made that they are created and sustained by economic necessity. To put that argument in the simplest terms; governments save us money.
My other point is that blind negative rage toward all public spending makes you an easily manipulated member of a mob. A mob that others are adept at using to shelter their favored projects.
I understand the concept of infrastructure enabling more economic activity. But this isn't an automatic free pass to building as many dams as you want. You have to assess how much infrastructure is needed.
if people needed that infrastructure then it would become profitable to build it and you wouldn't need public spending to do it. look at dubai.
profit is a measure of demand. if you aren't making any profit that means that there's no demand at the price you're charging.
as for the rest of your post...government saves us money? this is nonsensical. government takes money and provides services. You claim that these services are a net gain, I disagree.
as for the "libertarian mob"....you haven't been around any actual libertarians obviously. Mobs are the #1 things we hate. The whole point of libertarianism is to negate the power of mobs. read a book.
Well, I see that none of the "libertarian" downmod tribe wants to actually argue the point. It's so much easier to engage in groupthink and hit the little down arrow than to actually defend your assertions against someone who aggressively questions them.
FWIW, I didn't downvote you. And, upon review, it looks like Nazgul brought up infrustructure, sorry.
As I said in my earlier post infrustructure is fine depending on the situation. I believe government works are a necessary evil where we expect private interests to create monopolies for expoitation. Dam's are such a case. A good highway system is probably such a case. But these things take time and I expect them to be taken advantage of. They have to be maintained even if they aren't useful. You say.
"Public infrastructure provides economic benefits throughout the economy, enabling more economic activity; which more than makes up for the money withdrawn from circulation by taxation."
We just disagree on the last sentence. I believe it only makes up for it if the end result of the infrastructure encourages more economic activity.
Of course, this tbread started complaining about giving small business owners stimulous. Well, I agree with the original sentiment. They could also try relaxing some laws that get in small business owners ways.
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you're completely ignoring my original point. government money comes from somewhere. I'd recommend a basic course on economics before going off on details. http://www.fee.org/pdf/books/Economics_in_one_lesson.pdf
That is patronizing and wrong. I did address your point fairly directly modulo the sarcasm.
Public infrastructure provides economic benefits throughout the economy, enabling more economic activity; which more than makes up for the money withdrawn from circulation by taxation.
If you cannot wrap your head around this concept. You have no business lecturing others about basic economics.
Governments are not exempt from economic forces, in fact a very good argument could be made that they are created and sustained by economic necessity. To put that argument in the simplest terms; governments save us money.
My other point is that blind negative rage toward all public spending makes you an easily manipulated member of a mob. A mob that others are adept at using to shelter their favored projects.
I understand the concept of infrastructure enabling more economic activity. But this isn't an automatic free pass to building as many dams as you want. You have to assess how much infrastructure is needed. if people needed that infrastructure then it would become profitable to build it and you wouldn't need public spending to do it. look at dubai. profit is a measure of demand. if you aren't making any profit that means that there's no demand at the price you're charging.
as for the rest of your post...government saves us money? this is nonsensical. government takes money and provides services. You claim that these services are a net gain, I disagree.
as for the "libertarian mob"....you haven't been around any actual libertarians obviously. Mobs are the #1 things we hate. The whole point of libertarianism is to negate the power of mobs. read a book.
Well, I see that none of the "libertarian" downmod tribe wants to actually argue the point. It's so much easier to engage in groupthink and hit the little down arrow than to actually defend your assertions against someone who aggressively questions them.
FWIW, I didn't downvote you. And, upon review, it looks like Nazgul brought up infrustructure, sorry.
As I said in my earlier post infrustructure is fine depending on the situation. I believe government works are a necessary evil where we expect private interests to create monopolies for expoitation. Dam's are such a case. A good highway system is probably such a case. But these things take time and I expect them to be taken advantage of. They have to be maintained even if they aren't useful. You say. "Public infrastructure provides economic benefits throughout the economy, enabling more economic activity; which more than makes up for the money withdrawn from circulation by taxation."
We just disagree on the last sentence. I believe it only makes up for it if the end result of the infrastructure encourages more economic activity.
Of course, this tbread started complaining about giving small business owners stimulous. Well, I agree with the original sentiment. They could also try relaxing some laws that get in small business owners ways.