I would say Scheme is programming because it's literally a Lisp dialect, and Lisp is still used so.. yeah.

Snap! is literally a Scheme dialect.

So by your own definition, Snap! is a "real" programming language. I'm glad I finally convinced you to change your mind when confronted with irrefutable evidence!

But that's an weird definition that makes languages like Scheme and Snap! stop being "real" programming if Lisp stops being used. Is that really what you mean? A language can change from "real" to "not real" depending on how much another language is used?

Again, please drill down and elaborate and refine and debug your definition of what a "real" programming language, because it has a lot of holes and inconsistencies in it. See if you can whack all those moles.

Nobody is using Snap in production

Teaching children AI programming and Computer Science concepts IS PRODUCTION. It's producing the next generation of human beings. Those children are live and shipping in the real world. There is no dev or qa deployment.

Again reminding you to self-reflect because this is unhinged. What is wrong with you?

Musk making a Nazi salute twice on live international TV was definitely unhinged, we can both agree. Are you unhinged enough to do it too? Even recorded on youtube, under your hn handle, if you're too cowardly to do it under your own name like unhinged Musk did? Why are you defending a man so unhinged that you refuse to do the same thing he does?