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What do these discussions even matter when the words don't matter?

How many times has AGI been declared already? A bunch of people (e.g. Jensen Huang) have called Astra AGI, for example.

The goal posts get moved, everybody's hustling, lying, inventing new buzzwords, doing mental gymnastics, and it's all just tiring.

Just show me the results, and let the proof be in the pudding.

Recursive self-improvement is not necessary for AGI. Humans are general intelligences even though we cannot RSI.

Who says we can't RSI? At a macro view, successive generations of humans are more productive, live longer, wealthier and smarter.

Humanity might be able to, humans cannot

Doesn’t the history of civilization show RSI?

Or even evolution itself? Isn’t that just RSI writ large?

we cannot RSI

Speak for yourself.

I certainly do see one side of the debate moving goal posts…

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