The survey data reported in this article were collected via a telephone survey conducted by a research centre at a university in Hong Kong from May to June 2020.
And they also quote this paper with very similar results
Chung, Ting-Yiu Robert, Pang, Ka-Lai Karie, Lee, Wing-Yi Winnie, and Edward, Chit-Fai, comp. 2020. Survey on Hong Kong People’s Views Regarding the Anti-Extradition Bill Movement (Round 3). Hong Kong Public Opinion Research Institute. July 10. Accessed March 19, 2025.
I summarized it with a quote? What do you want? Alternatively/also read 2nd source, which also discuss it, and again they say economic/housing was a factor, but not the largest like you claimed.
I summarized it with a quote? What do you want? Alternatively/also read 2nd source, which also discuss it, and again they say economic/housing was a factor, but not the largest like you claimed.
Why did they say housing wasn't a reason or the main reason for the youth that continued the year long violent protests?
The University of Cambridge, UK source is the 2nd one right?
What about it makes you think that it's right and not the other sources citing housing? How much do you know about the HK housing situation in 2014-2019?
The survey data reported in this article were collected via a telephone survey conducted by a research centre at a university in Hong Kong from May to June 2020.
Huh? I'm just wondering why you even linked me to a source that is commissioned by a British news agency done by an institution that has historically been pro-sucession. And then another one by authors at The China Quarterly which has clearly been anti-China historically.
Can we at least check biases first?
I'm still looking for how your life was living in HK in 2019. Or are you just basing this purely on western media and institutions, like I mentioned in the OP?
What is Reuters about the data source being a phone survey conducted by a research centre at a university in Hong Kong? (Or the 2nd source they linked to which I quoted above)?
The source is literally in your link. Read it carefully.
residents polled in a survey conducted **for Reuters** by the Hong Kong Public Opinion Research Institute
It's literally commission by Reuters, a British news agency. It isn't academic malpractice because the institute was no longer part of HKU. Further more, their chief executive was accused of treason and has historically expressed anti-Beijing, pro-succession ideas. Clearly this institution was not going to be unbiased.
Anyways, how was your experience living in Hong Kong in 2019?
Polls use sampling to avoid the sort of social bias suggested by your question.
Ask the right person, like someone who protested, and they could tell you that literally everyone supports the protests. Why, everyone they know participated in at least one, and most of them went to many of them!
Regardless, I'm not sure why injustice should be subject to a popular referendum. If greater than 50% of polled North Koreans praise their current political leadership, does that make their current leadership good?
Hong Kong is one of my favorite cities, and I was there in 2019 as it happens, though not for the full year. I knew people who participated in protests, and people who sniffed and said they were stupid, although when pressed, that was more out of a belief (correct, it turns out) that they would be ineffective, and were dangerous to participate in.
It is still true that something of value has been lost, while it remains a fantastic city. It is still true that multiple political prisoners are being held on charges most of us would identify as unjust.
It is also true that protesters were upset about many varied things, including the outrageous cost of housing. But it's not clear what you're trying to say with that and silly arguing about polling sources. That Jimmy Lai, Joshua Wong, and many others deserve their imprisonment? That nothing of value has been lost as China has suppressed dissent and the free press in Hong Kong?
They absolutely deserved imprisonment. They broke laws and went to foreign countries for aid.
Imagine if Hawaii tried advocated for succession and went to China for help. The US isn't going to do anything? Come on. This double standard is ridiculous.
By the way, the protests lasted for an entire year before it ended. Clearly China gave them a lot of leeway. But in the end, if you tried to get foreign governments to interfere, you better have a good plan.
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Okay use my 2nd source then? Data source:
And they also quote this paper with very similar results
I summarized it with a quote? What do you want? Alternatively/also read 2nd source, which also discuss it, and again they say economic/housing was a factor, but not the largest like you claimed.
This is from 1st link, not 2nd like I said?
You managed to mistake [1] with [2] three times, really?
The University of Cambridge, UK source is the 2nd one right?
What about it makes you think that it's right and not the other sources citing housing? How much do you know about the HK housing situation in 2014-2019?
What survey was this?Yes which says nothing about Reuter like you wrote 3 times?
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I'll just reply here since max depth. You made a claim, that [2] has relation to Reuters. It doesn't, end of story.
Huh? I'm just wondering why you even linked me to a source that is commissioned by a British news agency done by an institution that has historically been pro-sucession. And then another one by authors at The China Quarterly which has clearly been anti-China historically.
Can we at least check biases first?
I'm still looking for how your life was living in HK in 2019. Or are you just basing this purely on western media and institutions, like I mentioned in the OP?
What is Reuters about the data source being a phone survey conducted by a research centre at a university in Hong Kong? (Or the 2nd source they linked to which I quoted above)?
They collected the data FOR Reuters.
I guess you didn’t check your own source.
Source? And just so we are clear, are you suggesting academic malpractice, that the university intentionally designed it to be biased?
The source is literally in your link. Read it carefully.
It's literally commission by Reuters, a British news agency. It isn't academic malpractice because the institute was no longer part of HKU. Further more, their chief executive was accused of treason and has historically expressed anti-Beijing, pro-succession ideas. Clearly this institution was not going to be unbiased.Anyways, how was your experience living in Hong Kong in 2019?
Polls use sampling to avoid the sort of social bias suggested by your question.
Ask the right person, like someone who protested, and they could tell you that literally everyone supports the protests. Why, everyone they know participated in at least one, and most of them went to many of them!
Regardless, I'm not sure why injustice should be subject to a popular referendum. If greater than 50% of polled North Koreans praise their current political leadership, does that make their current leadership good?
Hong Kong is one of my favorite cities, and I was there in 2019 as it happens, though not for the full year. I knew people who participated in protests, and people who sniffed and said they were stupid, although when pressed, that was more out of a belief (correct, it turns out) that they would be ineffective, and were dangerous to participate in.
It is still true that something of value has been lost, while it remains a fantastic city. It is still true that multiple political prisoners are being held on charges most of us would identify as unjust.
It is also true that protesters were upset about many varied things, including the outrageous cost of housing. But it's not clear what you're trying to say with that and silly arguing about polling sources. That Jimmy Lai, Joshua Wong, and many others deserve their imprisonment? That nothing of value has been lost as China has suppressed dissent and the free press in Hong Kong?
They absolutely deserved imprisonment. They broke laws and went to foreign countries for aid.
Imagine if Hawaii tried advocated for succession and went to China for help. The US isn't going to do anything? Come on. This double standard is ridiculous.
By the way, the protests lasted for an entire year before it ended. Clearly China gave them a lot of leeway. But in the end, if you tried to get foreign governments to interfere, you better have a good plan.