That’s the prevailing narrative, but I think this controversy calls it into question to some extent. If the OpenAI result wouldn’t have been possible without experts seeding the training data with feedback on promising solution routes, there’s less reason to believe this, IMO. More information and transparency is needed
I agree (and so does Buckmaster based on his written statement) that we are better having solved this.
But I disagree that which humans were credited is the heart of the issue in this particular controversy. The question is what do you need to bring to the table for a result like this. A pre-release frontier model trained on the open literature and $15 million of inference? Or all that plus a year of the experts finding the path to the solution for the model to run with?
I think it makes a huge difference in terms of what we think the future of mathematical research will be like, and whether we should still encourage students to go into this field, which was the original topic of this thread
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That’s the prevailing narrative, but I think this controversy calls it into question to some extent. If the OpenAI result wouldn’t have been possible without experts seeding the training data with feedback on promising solution routes, there’s less reason to believe this, IMO. More information and transparency is needed
That's the pickle isn't it? AI solved it with human help. But it's standing on their shoulders. Neither AI nor the humans got it alone.
Humanity is better having solved this issue. But which humans were credited and benefited is the issue.
I agree (and so does Buckmaster based on his written statement) that we are better having solved this.
But I disagree that which humans were credited is the heart of the issue in this particular controversy. The question is what do you need to bring to the table for a result like this. A pre-release frontier model trained on the open literature and $15 million of inference? Or all that plus a year of the experts finding the path to the solution for the model to run with?
I think it makes a huge difference in terms of what we think the future of mathematical research will be like, and whether we should still encourage students to go into this field, which was the original topic of this thread