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Another way to look at it is that when adults are back in charge, we can trust tech companies will fall in line with them too.

That is not helpful.

That makes them only useful as windsocks, and there are other far better ways to see which way the wind is blowing.

If you want symbolic resistance I suggest you look to sources other than multinational corporations for it. Their job is to make money and not stick their foot in any bear traps, our job is to not elect maniacs multiple times.

Lets not cross the streams just because it would be convenient this time... next time it may well not be.

Even "symbolic" resistance is not merely symbolic — it is actually costly and meaningful.

A core principle of authoritarianism is to get people, corporations, and institutions to yield to the despot's — comply in advance, retell the despot's lies, applaud the despot's ridiculous new clothes.

Anything not doing that provides permission for others to also refuse.

The entire principle of authoritarianism is it is too costly for a small number of people to resist, so the activation energy never happens. That is why they swat down one "bee" so hard, because if a million "bees" get together, they are done.

Supporting any person or corporation who resists is legit, as is refusing to support those who comply.

And the idea that corporations are only responsible for "shareholder value" and have zero responsibility to the people or society which literally sustains them is BS; just a mantra to justify running corporations like sociopaths.

This is what people who want to feel like they're a part of "resistance" tell each other to avoid having to make the smallest sacrifices that might actually matter. The internet is full of boycotts that go nowhere, words that mean nothing, and sentiments that exist only because it's the kind of thing the LCD upvotes.

So please, spare me the idealistic pitch about the power of symbolism, your record of results is appalling and embarrassing. It's a tragic misreading of history based on cherrypicked events that leads people to engage with this kind of mindset in any serious way.

Stop with the strawman arguments; am not equating internet words and meaningless upvotes with real action.

I am also not even close to claiming such disobedience is sufficient. It is not.

But it is a necessary first step. And failing to take that first step is a notable failure

The very first chapter title in On_Tyranny by historian of 20th-century Europe Timothy Snyder [0] are: "Do Not Comply In Advance"

The entire operation of authoritarianism is to force all the institutions of govt (executive, legislative, & Judicial), and of society (press, industry, academia, sport, religion, groups, etc.) to serve not the independent purposes they serve in a democratic society, but to serve the executive authoritarian.

Forced compliance is the first and most essential tool of authoritarians.

When major institutions or organizations comply, they make it harder for everyone else to not comply. Conversely, non-compliance sets the example for others to not comply. Every non-compliance makes it harder for the authoritarians to implement fascism.

On the other side, note how the current US regime is working so hard to erase actual history of slavery, racism, and atrocities against minorities. They are mere symbolic plaques describing massacres or other history at museums or historic sights — meaningless symbolism, right? NOPE, they are official statements giving permission to think in ways other than the despot wants you to think.

Similarly, had Google and Apple kept the actual historic name of Lake Ontario, which predated both the US and Canada's founding, it would have been both the right thing to do and a real Fck-You to the regime, by organizations with real power. It would have given many others more foundation to disobey. The entire point of this kind of regime action is to force others to obey. Not obeying is not merely symbolic, it is the first step in fighting tyranny.

YES, that alone is not sufficient. But it is a necessary first step. Google and Apple Failed.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Tyranny

Thanks, but I'm not ill-informed, I just disagree with you.

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