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You missed some important points that explain why he's not celebrated.

His efforts received enormous amounts of funding from the Nazis.

Much of his specialized 'computers' were explicitly for the war effort, including planes.

He was a big fan of utilizing computing for racial and genealogy research. The Nazis had plans drawn out to murder orders of magnitude more people based on this sort of research had they won (Generalplan Ost).

It was not like he was forced at gunpoint to participate, he was all in for the funding. Much like Von Braun, but did not have the luck to be paperclipped.

Initially received funding, later in the war they turned it off as "not war worthy"

You might be surprised how many UK and US scientists of that time supported eugenics, see for example https://nautil.us/how-eugenics-shaped-statistics-238014

and as for computers and atrocities, see IBM's history from the time or perhaps some more recent tech companies.

Few of us are saints.

You'll find that the computing pioneers we celebrate by name are largely detached from the examples you mentioned.

Same can also be said of IBMs computers at the time and the US efforts to build computers.

Sure, winners writing the history is a tale as old as time.

to my understandung this strong "fascist" hypothesis is hypebole. he was member of a conservative student association, however those were prohibited by the Nazis.

correct is that he was a conservative engineer who happened to be intelligent and live in that era, and who was lucky enough to work in his domain instead of dying a cannon fodder somewhere. did they build weapons? sure thing. does that make him a convinced fascist? certainly not.

he wasn't even member of the NSDAP party.

here is a short biography based off complete archive material:

Deutsche Biographie - Zuse, Konrad https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/gnd118637436.html

Where did I mention he was a fascist or a nazi?

There's a huge difference between "a conservative engineer who happened to be intelligent and live in that era" and leading a weapons lab attracting enormous amounts of funding, and fantasizing about how computing could be used to advance race science research.

fantasizing about how computing could be used to advance race science research.

mind to share sources to that part? that's saying "Nazi" btw.

https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/a-701465.html

https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/article/der-erste-computer-d...

that's saying "Nazi" btw.

No more than allowing chips on drones makes Nvidia/Intel VPs terrorists, but there's certainly culpability.

What do you think Alan Turing was working on?

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