I'm curious about the memespace HN people inhabit. I've been hearing about Halloween is National DeFlock Day for a while -- anyone else come across this rapidly-spreading meme?
So your argument for accepting omnipresent surveillance systems is that opposing it "ruins" Halloween. Welp, we'll all have to hope that your once a year cosplay party is worth the number of lives ruined by Flock. Which, may I remind you, is used by law enforcement to stalk their romantic interests and also put innocent people behind bars.
So your argument for accepting omnipresent surveillance systems is that opposing it "ruins" Halloween
No, if you abuse a day where everyone dresses up for fun to commit crimes, the fun dress-up part will no longer be tolerated.
If you still think that it's a good idea to have a purge night, foresight doesn't seem to be your strong point regardless as to whom or why they are oppressing you. Keep in mind that Flock is just another flavor of the day.
Also the stalking argument is old and stale: it's the same talking points presented with Facebook admins stalking loved one, and then again in the Snowden leaks... and then it becomes normalized after a while.
I've been hearing about Halloween is National DeFlock Day for a while
According to you, that's "committing crimes." I know that times are different now, but thoughtcrimes and de facto criminalization without legal codification are supposed to be unjust and unconstitutional. It's even more ironic when someone so obsessed with law and order goes so far as to invent crimes while ignoring the actual crimes that prompted the protests in the first place. So hypocritical. Mass surveillance, stalking, and putting people behind bars without evidence is supposed to be illegal, you know.
Also, stalking is okay as long as it's normalized? Wow, that's literally the logic of predators. No wonder your reply is what it is. Our guiding ethics are incompatible on a fundamental level.
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I'm curious about the memespace HN people inhabit. I've been hearing about Halloween is National DeFlock Day for a while -- anyone else come across this rapidly-spreading meme?
I came across a single version of it. My first thought was that if this goes ahead, it will likely start the process for ruining Halloween..
So your argument for accepting omnipresent surveillance systems is that opposing it "ruins" Halloween. Welp, we'll all have to hope that your once a year cosplay party is worth the number of lives ruined by Flock. Which, may I remind you, is used by law enforcement to stalk their romantic interests and also put innocent people behind bars.
No, if you abuse a day where everyone dresses up for fun to commit crimes, the fun dress-up part will no longer be tolerated.
If you still think that it's a good idea to have a purge night, foresight doesn't seem to be your strong point regardless as to whom or why they are oppressing you. Keep in mind that Flock is just another flavor of the day.
Also the stalking argument is old and stale: it's the same talking points presented with Facebook admins stalking loved one, and then again in the Snowden leaks... and then it becomes normalized after a while.
First time?
What you said "ruins Halloween" is this:
According to you, that's "committing crimes." I know that times are different now, but thoughtcrimes and de facto criminalization without legal codification are supposed to be unjust and unconstitutional. It's even more ironic when someone so obsessed with law and order goes so far as to invent crimes while ignoring the actual crimes that prompted the protests in the first place. So hypocritical. Mass surveillance, stalking, and putting people behind bars without evidence is supposed to be illegal, you know.
Also, stalking is okay as long as it's normalized? Wow, that's literally the logic of predators. No wonder your reply is what it is. Our guiding ethics are incompatible on a fundamental level.