against an innocent bystander ... is the complete opposite of morality
It's not an innocent bystander, it's against the team to tell the team to check their member. It's not the philosophical understanding of "morality" it's the practiced version. And the "morality" part is not the message telling the other group to check it's out of line member, it's that there is a thread of character or "morality" in the first place to allow a team (or society) to keep order from within to avoid wider violence/incidents that spill over into adjacent populations and last far longer as seen in other sports
I'm not sure we're watching the same game
If a pitcher is frustrated at losing and beans a guy for no other apparent reason, then either the batter will charge the pitcher or the star player on the pitchers team will get drilled when he comes up to bat and that'll be the end of it. That what i mean with the "unwritten" rules, to the casual observer it just looks like typical fighting or payback for some random thing like other sports, but there is a "gentleman's code" to it
Cherry picking sections of sentences and ignoring (or maybe simply not understanding) the context to pick an argument is against the spirt of HN. Whatever your argument is being based on, it is in a completely different lane than my posts and we are unlikely to not continue talking past one another. Take care.
My argument is simple: a pitcher throwing a baseball at a batter with the intention to hit the batter is unethical, dangerous, and counterproductive.
It's not to be admired. It's an idiotic tradition that should end.
Moreover, the kind of frontier justice promoted here should absolutely not be implemented in society at large, as implied by your first reply to me. I would certainly not put athletes in charge of policing morals (not that our current crop of unathletic billionaires is any better).
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It's not an innocent bystander, it's against the team to tell the team to check their member. It's not the philosophical understanding of "morality" it's the practiced version. And the "morality" part is not the message telling the other group to check it's out of line member, it's that there is a thread of character or "morality" in the first place to allow a team (or society) to keep order from within to avoid wider violence/incidents that spill over into adjacent populations and last far longer as seen in other sports
If a pitcher is frustrated at losing and beans a guy for no other apparent reason, then either the batter will charge the pitcher or the star player on the pitchers team will get drilled when he comes up to bat and that'll be the end of it. That what i mean with the "unwritten" rules, to the casual observer it just looks like typical fighting or payback for some random thing like other sports, but there is a "gentleman's code" to it
But "the team" doesn't get hit. One guy gets hit.
It's practiced violence.
Eye for an eye never ends. The way to avoid violence is to never start it.
No, it's a caveman code for brutes. Gentlemen use words to settle their disagreements, not fastballs.
Cherry picking sections of sentences and ignoring (or maybe simply not understanding) the context to pick an argument is against the spirt of HN. Whatever your argument is being based on, it is in a completely different lane than my posts and we are unlikely to not continue talking past one another. Take care.
My argument is simple: a pitcher throwing a baseball at a batter with the intention to hit the batter is unethical, dangerous, and counterproductive.
It's not to be admired. It's an idiotic tradition that should end.
Moreover, the kind of frontier justice promoted here should absolutely not be implemented in society at large, as implied by your first reply to me. I would certainly not put athletes in charge of policing morals (not that our current crop of unathletic billionaires is any better).