Not having seen or used a Lisa, what do people think about the NeXT as influential? It wasn't an Apple product until bought (an acqui-hire of sorts)
I used Sun-2 and later workstations, and it looks like they were comparable with Lisa, with the additional plus of a DisplayPostScript UI base. Where that gets interesting is that both a Unix base and DPS were part of NeXT.
But we are talking consumer versus research computers, different markets.
I managed Suns and Macs for a department, and there were interesting and useful similarities, particularly the SCSI bus and even the keyboards before USB. I really appreciated the Unix bases. Our department chairman said "Students will be using Windows when they graduate, so why macs?" I calmly stated that by the time they graduate, Windows will have stolen features from mac, with a time lag, so they'll be prepared.
Apple's history sure had some interesting twists and turns.
Graphics generators don't seem to convey anything, and often give themselves away with grossly misspelled words.
I suppose that whatever emerges from the current situation as actually useful might be encapsulated in a "regular" app or web app.
Only crazies like me (and HN) favor text, especially when videos and shorts seemed to bury it. Though, I still have fun mashing up graphics I find on the web and posting elsewhere. And posting images on the web can be infuriating, because sites require them to be hosted elsewhere and linked.
I take great photos but post almost none thanks to the internet copying and slurping machine. I just need to pay for (OUCH) a host that can restrict access. Or I snail mail memory sticks.
Most computer display systems are wired (Apple and MS) and barely user-manageable. Think Apple's infuriating Finder.
Columns seem to be laid out (sized) differently each new Finder window. Only the horizontally scrolling mouse handles that.
I used to have an applescript that resized the window to fit all the columns. It stopped working.
Linux offers more window managers, but when you are talking DPS or SVG, that's a radical change. Wyland took ages and is it prime tine?
I still think of a computer as a tool rather than an alter-brain, so I can't comment on how such a system would interact. If the result is generated on the fly and not repeatable, it's not for me.
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Not having seen or used a Lisa, what do people think about the NeXT as influential? It wasn't an Apple product until bought (an acqui-hire of sorts)
I used Sun-2 and later workstations, and it looks like they were comparable with Lisa, with the additional plus of a DisplayPostScript UI base. Where that gets interesting is that both a Unix base and DPS were part of NeXT.
But we are talking consumer versus research computers, different markets.
I managed Suns and Macs for a department, and there were interesting and useful similarities, particularly the SCSI bus and even the keyboards before USB. I really appreciated the Unix bases. Our department chairman said "Students will be using Windows when they graduate, so why macs?" I calmly stated that by the time they graduate, Windows will have stolen features from mac, with a time lag, so they'll be prepared.
Apple's history sure had some interesting twists and turns.
Would a Lisa 35 imagined for AI today combine DPS and SVG made programmable in support of a conscious core?
Funny, the rage seems to be text now (chat)
Graphics generators don't seem to convey anything, and often give themselves away with grossly misspelled words.
I suppose that whatever emerges from the current situation as actually useful might be encapsulated in a "regular" app or web app.
Only crazies like me (and HN) favor text, especially when videos and shorts seemed to bury it. Though, I still have fun mashing up graphics I find on the web and posting elsewhere. And posting images on the web can be infuriating, because sites require them to be hosted elsewhere and linked.
I take great photos but post almost none thanks to the internet copying and slurping machine. I just need to pay for (OUCH) a host that can restrict access. Or I snail mail memory sticks.
Most computer display systems are wired (Apple and MS) and barely user-manageable. Think Apple's infuriating Finder.
Columns seem to be laid out (sized) differently each new Finder window. Only the horizontally scrolling mouse handles that.
I used to have an applescript that resized the window to fit all the columns. It stopped working.
Linux offers more window managers, but when you are talking DPS or SVG, that's a radical change. Wyland took ages and is it prime tine?
I still think of a computer as a tool rather than an alter-brain, so I can't comment on how such a system would interact. If the result is generated on the fly and not repeatable, it's not for me.