What does "flagged off" mean? Where are you seeing the number of flags, and how are you concluding that flagging causes something to fall off the front page any faster than normal? AFAIK the front-page sorting has always been counter-intuitive.
You (and recoiledsnake) seem to make the exact same accusations on a very regular basis, but I'm not clear on how you're arriving at them.
You could've just asked me earlier. Anyway, there is a hotness rating which is combination how fresh the article is, and how many points an article has.
For example, an article with 45 points posted 10 minutes ago will have a higher ranking than an article with 10 points posted 45 minutes ago.
The Surface article with 50 points was ranking much lower than articles with less points posted before it. That indicates flagging.
As to the front page being wonky, can you point out any instances of articles with 50 points posted 1 hour ago being in the second page?
>how are you concluding that flagging causes something to fall off the front page any faster than normal
That's the whole point of flagging. If the flags are many more, it will even kill the post completely.
In all sincerity, the quality and quantity of your earlier comments on this left me with the impression that you had nothing but accusation and rage. (Disclaimer: I use Windows on a ThinkPad. I have a Samsung phone.)
Also, I don't rely on the front page, rarely vote on stories and have flagged maybe two or three times, so this isn't something that I am particularly concerned with or think anybody else should be. But comment quality I am concerned with, and so I care to the extent that addressing this issue will assist you and cooldeal posting fewer of the same angry comments.
So, to that extent, while I remain unconvinced that the problem is as described, I appreciate the effort.
That indicates flagging. [..] That's the whole point of flagging.
You answered neither of my questions: How are you counting the number of flags? Where are you getting the idea that flagging is effectively a downvote? I've never understood flags to cause anything to happen without a human moderator.
"I've never understood flags to cause anything to happen without a human moderator."
That's the way most sites work. HN isn't most sites. Unlike vBulletin, etc. content on HN isn't static. Like up and downvotes, flagging allows community moderation without the moderators getting involved. They can work instead.
People know how flagging works on HN because the basic code is available for inspection.
I have looked at news.arc and I do not come to the same conclusion about how flagging works. Without any additional information to understand the allegations, I've concluded that this is probably bullshit.
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What does "flagged off" mean? Where are you seeing the number of flags, and how are you concluding that flagging causes something to fall off the front page any faster than normal? AFAIK the front-page sorting has always been counter-intuitive.
You (and recoiledsnake) seem to make the exact same accusations on a very regular basis, but I'm not clear on how you're arriving at them.
You could've just asked me earlier. Anyway, there is a hotness rating which is combination how fresh the article is, and how many points an article has.
For example, an article with 45 points posted 10 minutes ago will have a higher ranking than an article with 10 points posted 45 minutes ago.
The Surface article with 50 points was ranking much lower than articles with less points posted before it. That indicates flagging.
As to the front page being wonky, can you point out any instances of articles with 50 points posted 1 hour ago being in the second page?
>how are you concluding that flagging causes something to fall off the front page any faster than normal
That's the whole point of flagging. If the flags are many more, it will even kill the post completely.
Also, see http://hnrankings.info/4848998/
The sudden plunge does not happen with other stories.
You could've just asked me earlier.
In all sincerity, the quality and quantity of your earlier comments on this left me with the impression that you had nothing but accusation and rage. (Disclaimer: I use Windows on a ThinkPad. I have a Samsung phone.)
Also, I don't rely on the front page, rarely vote on stories and have flagged maybe two or three times, so this isn't something that I am particularly concerned with or think anybody else should be. But comment quality I am concerned with, and so I care to the extent that addressing this issue will assist you and cooldeal posting fewer of the same angry comments.
So, to that extent, while I remain unconvinced that the problem is as described, I appreciate the effort.
That indicates flagging. [..] That's the whole point of flagging.
You answered neither of my questions: How are you counting the number of flags? Where are you getting the idea that flagging is effectively a downvote? I've never understood flags to cause anything to happen without a human moderator.
"I've never understood flags to cause anything to happen without a human moderator."
That's the way most sites work. HN isn't most sites. Unlike vBulletin, etc. content on HN isn't static. Like up and downvotes, flagging allows community moderation without the moderators getting involved. They can work instead.
People know how flagging works on HN because the basic code is available for inspection.
I have looked at news.arc and I do not come to the same conclusion about how flagging works. Without any additional information to understand the allegations, I've concluded that this is probably bullshit.