Cooling it isn't hard, when the steam hits the turbine it loses a lot of its energy and will inevitably cool down and condense. Then you just pump it around back into the chamber and re-steam it.
I work in the solar thermal industry - my company (http://www.sunapse.co) builds software for solar thermal power plants. I can say with some authority that this is legit and VERY promising tech.
the way I read this is that they put black particles that adsorb heat better in the water. That makes this produce some steam fast. I do not see how this would produce more steam than, say, a thin layer of water on top of a thin black-painted sheet that is well-insulated from below (sun heats black sheet; sheet heats water).
How is producing some steam rapidly an improvement?
So, them being 'black' isn't really the point. The point is the potential to get steam from water at lower temperatures, in less time.
If you are dealing with A LOT of water (if you were to scale this to power-plant scale), you are dealing with large 'thermal mass'. This means you need a lot of heat over time to raise all the water to a high enough temperature to create electricity.
If you run a power plant, you want flexibility. You want to switch on your power plant fast, and then shut it down when you want, without cost. This lets you speculate on the electricity market, and be more available if there is a sudden spike in electricity demand. If you're dealing with large thermal mass, you don't have this flexibility.
Also lots of advantages of lower cost - not needing heat exchangers etc but I'll leave it there.
How exactly would you scale this direct absorption? Glass tubes? Under pressure? Oops, now we're at the air-receiver dream. Never gonna happen. Also, can you guarantee that particles don't get entrained in the steam flow? I'm not sure Siemens is gonna warrantee that turbine. Sorry to be a pessimist, but it's gonna take a while longer for tech like this to make sense to me.
But it isn't hard to separate a small mass of water with low thermal mass from your "a LOT of water", is it? If your nanoparticle solution boils ten liters of water in the first minute, pour out ten liters of water over your black heat absorber, and it will boil in about a minute, too.
i think the hope would be that you get a thermal mass (see other reply) that is effectively variable.
with low amounts of incident energy (or when just starting) a large amount of water will heat slowly and you will get no significant steam pressure until the entire mass of liquid is boiling. but with this technology, you will get some steam almost immediately, from the water around the particles, even though the vast majority of the water remains cool. so you have a system with less lag, which is going to improve control / response.
what is not clear from the article, though, is whether this will still work well when there is a large flux of energy. hopefully both cases (traditional and particles) work equally well. in which case particles are a net win. but it may be that particles introduce new problems with "high input".
[the hope is that you get this flexibility "for free" (no need for "tubes") and yes, it works because the particles are effectively black. i have no idea how it would help remove the need for heat exchangers, though (unless they are externally powered - heat exchangers pre-warm water, which is not necessary with particles, but still makes sense if you are using waste heat, as it reduces losses and so increases efficiency).
the press release talks about making solar power more useful for small scale users in developing countries. my guess is that this helps there because you can get better efficiency when not operating at peak power, so "amateur" solar power is more efficient. the argument would be that at low power you get some stream with particles. without particles, in theory, you should also get some steam if you wait long enough (for things to heat up), but in practice, thermal losses might mean that you never do heat up enough for things to work (the heated water cooling as quickly as it is warmed).]
Comments
Cooling it isn't hard, when the steam hits the turbine it loses a lot of its energy and will inevitably cool down and condense. Then you just pump it around back into the chamber and re-steam it.
I work in the solar thermal industry - my company (http://www.sunapse.co) builds software for solar thermal power plants. I can say with some authority that this is legit and VERY promising tech.
Care to explain in what respect it is promising?
the way I read this is that they put black particles that adsorb heat better in the water. That makes this produce some steam fast. I do not see how this would produce more steam than, say, a thin layer of water on top of a thin black-painted sheet that is well-insulated from below (sun heats black sheet; sheet heats water).
How is producing some steam rapidly an improvement?
how long do you have? :)
So, them being 'black' isn't really the point. The point is the potential to get steam from water at lower temperatures, in less time.
If you are dealing with A LOT of water (if you were to scale this to power-plant scale), you are dealing with large 'thermal mass'. This means you need a lot of heat over time to raise all the water to a high enough temperature to create electricity.
If you run a power plant, you want flexibility. You want to switch on your power plant fast, and then shut it down when you want, without cost. This lets you speculate on the electricity market, and be more available if there is a sudden spike in electricity demand. If you're dealing with large thermal mass, you don't have this flexibility.
Also lots of advantages of lower cost - not needing heat exchangers etc but I'll leave it there.
How exactly would you scale this direct absorption? Glass tubes? Under pressure? Oops, now we're at the air-receiver dream. Never gonna happen. Also, can you guarantee that particles don't get entrained in the steam flow? I'm not sure Siemens is gonna warrantee that turbine. Sorry to be a pessimist, but it's gonna take a while longer for tech like this to make sense to me.
But it isn't hard to separate a small mass of water with low thermal mass from your "a LOT of water", is it? If your nanoparticle solution boils ten liters of water in the first minute, pour out ten liters of water over your black heat absorber, and it will boil in about a minute, too.
i think the hope would be that you get a thermal mass (see other reply) that is effectively variable.
with low amounts of incident energy (or when just starting) a large amount of water will heat slowly and you will get no significant steam pressure until the entire mass of liquid is boiling. but with this technology, you will get some steam almost immediately, from the water around the particles, even though the vast majority of the water remains cool. so you have a system with less lag, which is going to improve control / response.
what is not clear from the article, though, is whether this will still work well when there is a large flux of energy. hopefully both cases (traditional and particles) work equally well. in which case particles are a net win. but it may be that particles introduce new problems with "high input".
[the hope is that you get this flexibility "for free" (no need for "tubes") and yes, it works because the particles are effectively black. i have no idea how it would help remove the need for heat exchangers, though (unless they are externally powered - heat exchangers pre-warm water, which is not necessary with particles, but still makes sense if you are using waste heat, as it reduces losses and so increases efficiency).
the press release talks about making solar power more useful for small scale users in developing countries. my guess is that this helps there because you can get better efficiency when not operating at peak power, so "amateur" solar power is more efficient. the argument would be that at low power you get some stream with particles. without particles, in theory, you should also get some steam if you wait long enough (for things to heat up), but in practice, thermal losses might mean that you never do heat up enough for things to work (the heated water cooling as quickly as it is warmed).]