Point taken, you are right that the internet predates the World Wide Web, but as you say that resulted from the work of universities, darpa etc. The "etc" in this case is not to be neglected. While DARPA was working on ARPANET, others were working on other precursors of the modern day Internet such as X.25, CYCLADES etc. that greatly contributed to the development of critical components such as TCP/IP. The Internet certainly owes a lot to American research and military funding, but there is no such thing as an "American Internet".
Also, Usenet, email etc. are just as little "the Internet" as the world wide web is. They are all services that run on top of the Internet (the global system of interconnected computer networks that use the standard Internet protocol suite).
X.25: completely separate protocol, nothing to do with TCP/IP or ARPANET.
CYCLADES: completely separate protocol.
Usenet, email: both predated the Internet and have nothing to do with it. Usenet ran over UUCP in its first incarnation, as did net mail.
Yes, X.25 is a completely separate protocol and so is CYCLADES, but they were both early packet switched networks that were influential in the development in the modern day Internet just like ARPANET. The Internet is not ARPANET, but of all the other "internets", it owes the most to ARPANET (built in the US, based off British design). Either way, there is no such thing as an "American Internet". There is just "the Internet".
No, X.25 had nothing to do with the ARPANET. X.25 did have something to do with the Internet and so did CYCLADES (both of which, by the way, came after ARPANET and was inspired by it, then inspired changes in ARPANET again). They are both packet switched networks that contributed to the Internet we have today (though arguably not as much as ARPANET).
Packet switching was, by the way, not invented in the United States, but in Britain [1], but ARPANET was the first to actually implement it, so yes, part of ARPANET was based directly off British design.
Like I said, most of the Internet we have now would never have existed (or looked quite differently) without the work of American universities or DARPA. This is not even what this is about.
This thread is about the global .edu TLD being restricted to US accredited universities, whereas it was originally intended to be open to the world. The comment I replied to was "Nobody made your country sign up for the American internet. You could have built your own...". The internet is not property of the USA, and it shouldn't be.
The USA clearly had a key role in the development role, which is cool, but don't pat your own back like that. Stay classy.
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Point taken, you are right that the internet predates the World Wide Web, but as you say that resulted from the work of universities, darpa etc. The "etc" in this case is not to be neglected. While DARPA was working on ARPANET, others were working on other precursors of the modern day Internet such as X.25, CYCLADES etc. that greatly contributed to the development of critical components such as TCP/IP. The Internet certainly owes a lot to American research and military funding, but there is no such thing as an "American Internet".
Also, Usenet, email etc. are just as little "the Internet" as the world wide web is. They are all services that run on top of the Internet (the global system of interconnected computer networks that use the standard Internet protocol suite).
X.25: completely separate protocol, nothing to do with TCP/IP or ARPANET. CYCLADES: completely separate protocol. Usenet, email: both predated the Internet and have nothing to do with it. Usenet ran over UUCP in its first incarnation, as did net mail.
Yes, X.25 is a completely separate protocol and so is CYCLADES, but they were both early packet switched networks that were influential in the development in the modern day Internet just like ARPANET. The Internet is not ARPANET, but of all the other "internets", it owes the most to ARPANET (built in the US, based off British design). Either way, there is no such thing as an "American Internet". There is just "the Internet".
X.25 had nothing whatsoever to do with the ARPANET. It was a wildly different protocol in EVERY respect, and had NO influence on the Internet. At all.
CYCLADES maybe had a bit of influence. X.25, nope.
Packet switching itself was, of course, also invented in the United States.
The ARPANET was not "based on British design", either.
I realize that it bothers some people that the United States invented the Internet, but that's how it was. Sorry, and you're welcome.
No, X.25 had nothing to do with the ARPANET. X.25 did have something to do with the Internet and so did CYCLADES (both of which, by the way, came after ARPANET and was inspired by it, then inspired changes in ARPANET again). They are both packet switched networks that contributed to the Internet we have today (though arguably not as much as ARPANET).
Packet switching was, by the way, not invented in the United States, but in Britain [1], but ARPANET was the first to actually implement it, so yes, part of ARPANET was based directly off British design.
Like I said, most of the Internet we have now would never have existed (or looked quite differently) without the work of American universities or DARPA. This is not even what this is about.
This thread is about the global .edu TLD being restricted to US accredited universities, whereas it was originally intended to be open to the world. The comment I replied to was "Nobody made your country sign up for the American internet. You could have built your own...". The internet is not property of the USA, and it shouldn't be.
The USA clearly had a key role in the development role, which is cool, but don't pat your own back like that. Stay classy.
[1] http://www.internethalloffame.org/inductees/donald-davies