I agree with you. But people are allowed to complain, so they're complaining. And the maintainers are allowed to ignore the complaining. Everything is according to the process.
I'm not. If they had simply said, "Hey this is getting to be too much work and I don't want to continue anymore. Let me know if you're interested in taking over maintainership of the project." then that's fine. Hell even if they just archived the project and ghosted never to be seen again that's also fine.
It's (yet another) example
of a company donning the trappings of an open source project as a "growth hack" or to secure VC funding and then rug pulling when they decide they want to try and squeeze their user base for cash. They're the corporate stooges that insert themselves into high-trust communities and subcultures to make a buck and ruin it for everyone.
I mean is it though? They've been open source for over a decade thats a really long con I guess.
It’s more likely circumstances have changed. Which is why forking is a thing and you dont have to be oss forever.
I stand by my assertion that this would have been fine if they didn’t communicate like garbage. They should have said what you said and gave a good off ramp period.
The only notice I have received is from the blowback of their behavior. Walking away from supporting the open source product at any other time than in the wake of a security vulnerability disclosure would have been received better. Sure they're not legally culpable for fixing anything but they're now obviously untrustworthy as a business partner going forwards.
Oh then like I don’t even see the problem. That said I think like a direct notification through email or something is probably better than random blog post, but I digress:
They planned to walk away earlier as I believe I saw its really just unfortunate timing.
If you’re doing business with them you should be on a business license with a contract and legal guarantees. I understand it sucks, but it’s a little bit of a self own imo if you’re only on their oss for business purposes. That also kind of breaks the social contract in the opposite direction imo.
Oh then like I don’t even see the problem. That said I think like a direct notification through email or something is probably better than random blog post, but I digress:
How would they know your email if you are using minio-oss? Blog post is for sure enough. Decision itself is dumb, it's a public repo with free runners to build images that downloaded 10M times. That behavior is much different how you had to go somewhere else to get OpenJDK binaries.
Maintaining existing build pipeline is nearly zero cost.
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What is so hard about the idea that you are not perpetually entitled to the free labor of other people?
The only thing they owed people here was a 60 day notice imo. That would better respect the social contract.
I agree with you. But people are allowed to complain, so they're complaining. And the maintainers are allowed to ignore the complaining. Everything is according to the process.
Yeah I suppose you’re right
I'm not. If they had simply said, "Hey this is getting to be too much work and I don't want to continue anymore. Let me know if you're interested in taking over maintainership of the project." then that's fine. Hell even if they just archived the project and ghosted never to be seen again that's also fine.
It's (yet another) example of a company donning the trappings of an open source project as a "growth hack" or to secure VC funding and then rug pulling when they decide they want to try and squeeze their user base for cash. They're the corporate stooges that insert themselves into high-trust communities and subcultures to make a buck and ruin it for everyone.
I mean is it though? They've been open source for over a decade thats a really long con I guess.
It’s more likely circumstances have changed. Which is why forking is a thing and you dont have to be oss forever.
I stand by my assertion that this would have been fine if they didn’t communicate like garbage. They should have said what you said and gave a good off ramp period.
There was a 60 days notice? https://blog.min.io/
The only notice I have received is from the blowback of their behavior. Walking away from supporting the open source product at any other time than in the wake of a security vulnerability disclosure would have been received better. Sure they're not legally culpable for fixing anything but they're now obviously untrustworthy as a business partner going forwards.
Oh then like I don’t even see the problem. That said I think like a direct notification through email or something is probably better than random blog post, but I digress:
They planned to walk away earlier as I believe I saw its really just unfortunate timing.
If you’re doing business with them you should be on a business license with a contract and legal guarantees. I understand it sucks, but it’s a little bit of a self own imo if you’re only on their oss for business purposes. That also kind of breaks the social contract in the opposite direction imo.
How would they know your email if you are using minio-oss? Blog post is for sure enough. Decision itself is dumb, it's a public repo with free runners to build images that downloaded 10M times. That behavior is much different how you had to go somewhere else to get OpenJDK binaries.
Maintaining existing build pipeline is nearly zero cost.
Doesn’t matter it’s not your call.
People should begin to think about these externalities. I do.
If you’re using them for business you should probably have a more formal arrangement where they could email you.