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Ok, I agree with most what you are saying, but most part of those issues can be find with a proper testing. For instance, Steve Jobs Apple era is much more focused on quality and attention to detail. Under Tim Cook, Apple shifted from “it just works” to “ship fast, fix in updates.”

The difference isn’t complexity it’s priorities. Jobs-era Apple had smaller teams building fewer products with obsessive quality standards. Cook-era Apple has massive teams shipping constantly with “good enough” as the bar.

You’re right that testing helps. But when quality becomes optional, no amount of testing infrastructure fixes the cultural problem. We test for “does it work?” not “is it excellent?”

These issues passed all automated tests. They just didn’t pass the “would we be embarrassed to ship this?” test. That test doesn’t exist anymore at scale.

I’m not a huge fan of automated-only testing; especially wrt GUI and device control.

I tend to prefer test harnesses: https://littlegreenviper.com/various/testing-harness-vs-unit...

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