any and all arguments about infinity must include the word "believ", anything else is bombastic hubris I believe the universe to be infinite, that notion fits my own observations, and is comforting, the notion that there is more, in how ridiculous all the squabling about this and that, the who's and why's, is, and my own reduction of the idea of infinity is that in a universe with infinite, time,space, energy and matter, probability does not exist,everything must happen. Perhaps not right here and right now, I hope, as that would be a bit much, but perhaps that is a hint, and all we are is filters, tuned to the whatever it is that we talk about so much.