When I was in kindergarten there were tasks where you'd get a paragraph of text where you had to fill in blanks, and next to those blanks were pictograms of whatever noun was expected.
Whenever I see people overuse emojis, for example "Yesterday we flew [plane emoji] to Japan [Flag of Japan] and took the train [bullet train emoji] and saw Mt. Fuji [emoji of Mt. Fuji]", I always think, "This person is still in kindergarten."...
That's funny! I've made a "tool"[1] that "automatically" adds emojis to text.
It is even worse for your example! It adds two train emojis for some reason.
"Yesterday we flew [plane emoji] to Japan [Flag of Japan] and took[train emoji] the train[train profile emoji] and saw Mt. Fuji [emoji of Mt. Fuji]"
I did a ShowHN because I thought it was a good idea but it flopped. Maybe I should pivot my idea toward kindergarteners!
it sounds like a person who does not know their emojis: Japan is the only country to have its geography available as an emoji, so why wouldn't you use it in this case instead of the flag?
You do, but others don't, and I can't imagine anyone getting confused by a phrase like "I went on a [plane emoji] yesterday!" so it's not a barrier to communication. So where's the issue?
I often wonder about how things affect screen readers. I have no way of knowing, really, what the problems are for people who rely on them. I am told lots of things are good practice, and and I can make some guesses about other things, but a lot of it is not what most people do.....
Your Japan comment is a bit strange considering that the Japanese writing system itself uses Kanji which are effectively the OG emoji (well really Chinese is the true OG and emoji are more of a modern take on kanji/Chinese pictographs).
That said, why is a Japanese sentence written using one set of pictographs respectable and proper, but another set of pictographs means the writer is in kindergarten?
One is a writing system that depicts concepts with classy strokes and has thousands of years of history; the other is a bunch of redundant Fisher-Price looking drawings without semantics added to Unicode by a corporate committee.
Chinese writing is the OG wrt Japanese kanji, but it is preceded (independently) by Egyptian hieroglyphs, which, if you want to compare OG-emojis, I submit for your evaluation 𓂸 and 𓂺 as being better eggplants than an eggplant
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When I was in kindergarten there were tasks where you'd get a paragraph of text where you had to fill in blanks, and next to those blanks were pictograms of whatever noun was expected.
Whenever I see people overuse emojis, for example "Yesterday we flew [plane emoji] to Japan [Flag of Japan] and took the train [bullet train emoji] and saw Mt. Fuji [emoji of Mt. Fuji]", I always think, "This person is still in kindergarten."...
You mean, like the fastapi documentation used to be?
https://github.com/fastapi/fastapi/issues/3273
that's hilarious - love seeing funny github issues and the drama that ensues
Gotta love some good GitHub drama!
That's funny! I've made a "tool"[1] that "automatically" adds emojis to text. It is even worse for your example! It adds two train emojis for some reason. "Yesterday we flew [plane emoji] to Japan [Flag of Japan] and took[train emoji] the train[train profile emoji] and saw Mt. Fuji [emoji of Mt. Fuji]"
I did a ShowHN because I thought it was a good idea but it flopped. Maybe I should pivot my idea toward kindergarteners!
[1]:https://emojithis.com/
Fun idea! Maybe re-target as a "de-Boomer my text" app...
it sounds like a person who does not know their emojis: Japan is the only country to have its geography available as an emoji, so why wouldn't you use it in this case instead of the flag?
https://emojipedia.org/map-of-japan
Because when writing you use proper nouns.
You do, but others don't, and I can't imagine anyone getting confused by a phrase like "I went on a [plane emoji] yesterday!" so it's not a barrier to communication. So where's the issue?
Because its harder to read. The example another comment linked to is a good demonstration https://github.com/fastapi/fastapi/issues/3273
Occasional emoji are not so bad but people who spam huge numbers of them aren't aware of what a mess they make for screen readers.
I often wonder about how things affect screen readers. I have no way of knowing, really, what the problems are for people who rely on them. I am told lots of things are good practice, and and I can make some guesses about other things, but a lot of it is not what most people do.....
Customers of my employer demand accessibility so we use https://www.nvaccess.org/ for screen reader testing which is a free download
Thanks, and I would love something like this, but its Windows only.
There is one built into MacOS
https://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1121.html
On Linux there is
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/index.html.en
I have no idea how good that one is, but VoiceOver is pretty good.
Your Japan comment is a bit strange considering that the Japanese writing system itself uses Kanji which are effectively the OG emoji (well really Chinese is the true OG and emoji are more of a modern take on kanji/Chinese pictographs).
That said, why is a Japanese sentence written using one set of pictographs respectable and proper, but another set of pictographs means the writer is in kindergarten?
One is a writing system that depicts concepts with classy strokes and has thousands of years of history; the other is a bunch of redundant Fisher-Price looking drawings without semantics added to Unicode by a corporate committee.
Chinese writing is the OG wrt Japanese kanji, but it is preceded (independently) by Egyptian hieroglyphs, which, if you want to compare OG-emojis, I submit for your evaluation 𓂸 and 𓂺 as being better eggplants than an eggplant