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but too often they (more the jr mid-level ones) are checked out during that process

Reading this kinda threw me into a loop. Yes, jr and regulars are usually not able to do things generally attributed to senior developers.

Expecting someone that neither knows the implementation nor the language in-depth to be able to do that is kinda monkas

I disagree, it's great practice and starting early in a career will only pay dividends later on. It requires the desire to actually want to participate and contribute professionally and not just hide behind a keyboard all day. I get that some people just want to hide behind a keyboard all day- fine. These people often complain the most later on... in my experience.

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