What is the average lifespan of a car? If the service is not delivered during the useful life of the vehicle I would assume it already qualifies as misrepresentation. 2016 is 8 years ago, I am sure plenty of those vehicles have put over 150k miles on them and have deprecated into nothing.
I feel like with the warranty usually lasting 50k or so, it’s reasonable to say many people wouldn’t keep a car, or have ever planned to, past 150k, even if the car is perfectly drivable 8 years on with that mileage.
My car is that old, and I expect to keep it at least 8 more. But many would have traded in by 8 years especially if they drive so much more than me.
Well after looking, there aren't any good reliable sources for an easy number. But comparing what state data I could find, it seems like 12 years and 200k mileage is the median.
So I maintain my original statement. 8 years and 150k miles for a car that is sold as a simpler (mechanically) and more reliable because of that mechanical simplicity is kind of crappy.
As is usual in these type of class actions, you’ll probably get coupon for 10% off the heated seat upgrades in a new Tesla after 10 years of litigation.
This should be unsurprising to anyone who saw through the lies from Tesla and Elon over FSD (Fools Self Driving) after the California DMV already went after Tesla over their false advertising. [0]
The worst part was that the customers paying for the system didn't even know they got scammed, as put eloquently in this HN comment. [1].
Intent matters little, consequences matter significantly. Strong argument exists that your comment focused on the intent instead of the perceived outcome.
This. Someone probably migrated the backend from Django to Jekyl and manually migrated a few years of blog posts and decided that anything older than 2020 was no longer relevant.
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Generous interpretation: they want to make better and stop implying untrue things in their marketing.
Cynical version: something very bad happened that we will hear in the news in next couple of days and they are panic scrubbing stuff.
They can't spot motorcycles
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-...
Seems to have been a Harley Davidson rear ended at 1am on a highway. NHTSA also opened an investigation into that crash in 2022 https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/1-u-probes-tesla-crash-205...
Tesla recently settled a lawsuit (where the Tesla driver died) recently from an old 2018 incident, so maybe the family saw an opportunity to try their own suit 2yrs after the incident https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tesla-autopilot-death-settl...
Sooooo, do those of us that bought into it get compensated for the misrepresentation? I doubt it but that’s be sensible.
What is the average lifespan of a car? If the service is not delivered during the useful life of the vehicle I would assume it already qualifies as misrepresentation. 2016 is 8 years ago, I am sure plenty of those vehicles have put over 150k miles on them and have deprecated into nothing.
It's 150k acceptable today? I was upset when my transmission went out at 200k.
Maybe I'm wrong but I think the expected life of a car is quite a bit longer than that?
I feel like with the warranty usually lasting 50k or so, it’s reasonable to say many people wouldn’t keep a car, or have ever planned to, past 150k, even if the car is perfectly drivable 8 years on with that mileage.
My car is that old, and I expect to keep it at least 8 more. But many would have traded in by 8 years especially if they drive so much more than me.
Some states/countries publish stats on car registrations/unregistrations and also record mileage each year at annual tests.
I'm pretty sure somewhere on the internet you'll find enough official data to figure out median car mileage.
Well after looking, there aren't any good reliable sources for an easy number. But comparing what state data I could find, it seems like 12 years and 200k mileage is the median.
So I maintain my original statement. 8 years and 150k miles for a car that is sold as a simpler (mechanically) and more reliable because of that mechanical simplicity is kind of crappy.
As is usual in these type of class actions, you’ll probably get coupon for 10% off the heated seat upgrades in a new Tesla after 10 years of litigation.
This should be unsurprising to anyone who saw through the lies from Tesla and Elon over FSD (Fools Self Driving) after the California DMV already went after Tesla over their false advertising. [0]
The worst part was that the customers paying for the system didn't even know they got scammed, as put eloquently in this HN comment. [1].
[0] https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-08-05/dmv-false-...
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32364110
"Something very bad" meaning a legal problem. A bad accident killing a handful of people wouldn't make them change it.
Or they just decided to clean up the blog and remove all old releases prior to 2019. Nothing from 2018 and before in the blog anymore.
Intent matters little, consequences matter significantly. Strong argument exists that your comment focused on the intent instead of the perceived outcome.
This. Someone probably migrated the backend from Django to Jekyl and manually migrated a few years of blog posts and decided that anything older than 2020 was no longer relevant.